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Old Oct 5, 2015 | 11:37 AM
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I have a 2016 Vette. Can somebody explain to me this motion sensor/intrusion sensor. When is it on? When is it not on? For example, if I close my car but leave the top on and the windows down - is the sensor on? If I leave my car with the top off and the windows down - is the sensor on? How about if I push on that button next to the hatch release? When do I need to push that? Can I have the top off and windows down but as long as I remember to push that switch I'll have intrusion detection on?

Kevincol wrote: If the top is on, the "motion detection" part of the alarm will be on (i.e. if you reach in and try to take something). If the top is off, the "motion detection" part of the alarm will be disarmed unless you put something to trip the switch. There is a referenced thread that talks about what one member did to enable the alarm with the top off. I do that all the time now and it works fine.

My question is specifically, if the top is down and before closing the door I hit the Motion Sensor button next to the trunk release and the DIC says "Motion Sensor on" then I can rely on the fact that the Intrusion detection system has been armed? I assume it take a number of seconds before it activates to allow me to get out of the car and for the car to automatically lock. If so, how many seconds?

Oh and I guess I could add another question - is the intrusion sensor disarmed as I approach the car with the fob?
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Old Oct 5, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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It's posted here almost every two weeks, search here and read for days...
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Old Oct 5, 2015 | 12:00 PM
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I've been here for quite sometime now and this question remains unanswered. Please don't tell me to just search - I have. I haven't found the answer so I posted. If you're not gonna be helpful then don't post!
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Originally Posted by defaria
I have a 2016 Vette. Can somebody explain to me this motion sensor/intrusion sensor. When is it on? When is it not on? For example, if I close my car but leave the top on and the windows down - is the sensor on?

If you lock the car, the motion sensor is on, the intrusion sensor is on








If I leave my car with the top off and the windows down - is the sensor on?

If you lock the car, the motion sensor is on, intrusion is off


How about if I push on that button next to the hatch release?

That disables the system




When do I need to push that?

Leave a pet in the car for a few minutes, the intrusion alarm will sound when Fido farts.

Can I have the top off and windows down but as long as I remember to push that switch I'll have intrusion detection on?


No

Kevincol wrote: If the top is on, the "motion detection" part of the alarm will be on (i.e. if you reach in and try to take something).


This description is for the Intrusion alarm, not motion.



If the top is off, the "motion detection" (INTRUSION) part of the alarm will be disarmed unless you put something to trip the switch. There is a referenced thread that talks about what one member did to enable the alarm with the top off. I do that all the time now and it works fine.

My question is specifically, if the top is down (Did you just change to a convertible???????)

and before closing the door I hit the Motion Sensor button next to the trunk release and the DIC says "Motion Sensor on" then I can rely on the fact that the Intrusion detection system has been armed?

NO

I assume it take a number of seconds before it activates to allow me to get out of the car and for the car to automatically lock. If so, how many seconds?

Not armed until you get out and the red light on the dash tells you it is armed.

Oh and I guess I could add another question - is the intrusion sensor disarmed as I approach the car with the fob?

Not until you unlock the car.


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Wait, so then what is the intrusion sensor as opposed to the motion sensor?!? I was of the opinion that they were the same thing! That they sense motion and if detected set off the alarm thereby signalling an intrusion. What is the motion sensor for if not to detect an intrusion?!? Sense motion and then do what?

In any event I'm interested in the intrusion system. I want to know when it goes on and when I have to put it on as well as if I can put it on at all. And no I did not just switch to a convertible - the top comes off on the coupes too. Besides you were citing Kevincol who I quoted from a previous misplaced post. Perhaps Kevincol has a convertible.

I don't know why people are having such a difficult time with these questions - they're really quite simple. I asked "How about if I push on that button next to the hatch release?" and you answered "That disables the system". Yes it says "Intrusion system off" or something like that. But if I hit the button again it says "Intrusion system on". My question is does that mean that it's on and activated? IOW if I leave my windows open after hitting the button the second time and say 10 minutes later a person walks by and sticks his hand it, does the alarm go on?

Additionally I've heard that if you have the top off then the intrusion system is not automatically on. But if I hit that button next to the trunk release until it says "On" is the alarm on and protecting my car? You state

And finally I asked, assuming hitting the button turns the alarm on it must be time delayed in order to allow me to exit the vehicle. How long is that time delay?
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Both are as the names suggest. The intrusion sensor monitors a breach into the interior space of the car. The motion sensor monitors movement of the car, that is, the body of the car moves like when it is bumped, pushed, towed, etc.
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That depends a lot on what the person believes the name suggests. I think of motion sensing as sensing motion in the car like a breach into the interior space of the car.

So you're saying then that there is currently no way (short of stuffing something into the sensor hole as another thread suggested) of having the top off, windows down and the intrusion alarm on?!? That seems dumb.

Also, the other guy said that button was for "Leave a pet in the car for a few minutes, the intrusion alarm will sound when Fido farts". I doubt Fido farting would be detected as a movement of the car...
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The dog farting example is consistent with my explanation.
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I didn't design the system, so if it's "dumb" then your issue is with GM.
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Originally Posted by Glen e
It's posted here almost every two weeks, search here and read for days...
Useless response, if you do not want to provide links or answer yourself move on. He is asking a legitimate question that is what the forum is for not to tell everyone to search.
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Useless response, if you do not want to provide links or answer yourself move on. He is asking a legitimate question that is what the forum is for not to tell everyone to search.
R u a mod here? I'll post what I want, you of all peopl should know that...LOL
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Originally Posted by defaria
That depends a lot on what the person believes the name suggests. I think of motion sensing as sensing motion in the car like a breach into the interior space of the car.

So you're saying then that there is currently no way (short of stuffing something into the sensor hole as another thread suggested) of having the top off, windows down and the intrusion alarm on?!? That seems dumb.

Also, the other guy said that button was for "Leave a pet in the car for a few minutes, the intrusion alarm will sound when Fido farts". I doubt Fido farting would be detected as a movement of the car...
He would be detected as an intruder in the car....

So, do you have your terms straight now?

Intrusion means stick your arm in the car and get an alarm

Motion means wiggle the car and get an alarm.

Don't act naive, I was clear enough. I even tried to answer your 500 question OP.

Elmer (This "Other Guy" is done in this thread. Too much hostility.)
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Originally Posted by C7cmnthru
I didn't design the system, so if it's "dumb" then your issue is with GM.
I did not say, nor imply that you were dumb. Whatever would give you that idea?
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Originally Posted by Glen e
It's posted here almost every two weeks, search here and read for days...
a fellow Corvette owner asked for help; why not provide the answers or links then
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Originally Posted by dvilin
Useless response, if you do not want to provide links or answer yourself move on. He is asking a legitimate question that is what the forum is for not to tell everyone to search.
I knew there was a reason I immediately placed Glen e on my ignore list...

Originally Posted by eboggs_jkvl
He would be detected as an intruder in the car....

So, do you have your terms straight now?

Intrusion means stick your arm in the car and get an alarm

Motion means wiggle the car and get an alarm.

Don't act naive, I was clear enough. I even tried to answer your 500 question OP.

Elmer (This "Other Guy" is done in this thread. Too much hostility.)
I had "500 question"? Really? If I've told you once I've told you A MILLION TIMES - never exaggerate!

No, I asked a few pertinent questions and many of them were simply ignored. For example I asked "So you're saying then that there is currently no way (short of stuffing something into the sensor hole as another thread suggested) of having the top off, windows down and the intrusion alarm on?!? That seems dumb." That question was not answered. Instead the person chose (emphasis on the word "chose" as it was not my message nor intent at all) to take offense (apparently) that I called the system, not him, dumb.

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Originally Posted by defaria
I did not say, nor imply that you were dumb. Whatever would give you that idea?
I did not take your remark as saying I was dumb. I took it as you intended and that is, the logic of the GM approach, in your opinion, doesn't make sense. Please refer to my comment "if its dumb, your issue is with GM." Clear to me that the "its" is the security system.

I have given you my best responses to your questions. No more to offer and hope I have helped at some level. And too much miscommunication and push back from all sides.
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Very intelligent response.
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