All info is in this pdf http://netwelding.com/Ceramic_Pads.pdf Thank you Jerry U

 

My issue with ceramics is that they squeal really bad. You can bed them in using the 'non aggressive' method but as soon as you take some heavy stops or have a track day, they are back to making noise.....

I could not get the ceramics on my 2011 mustang to be quiet, trying 2 different sets of rotors and 2 brands of ceramic pads.

 

FWIW, I have not heard a peep from my 1521's in the year I have had them installed. Made a number of hard stops but not tracking so mostly only when the brakes were warm.
With the OEM Z51 pads after I broke them in slowly as recommended, at 1000 miles they would sequel like a stuck pig on slow speed stops. I bedded them using a more aggressive bedding procedure as recommended in the Owner's Manual (but only 9 to 10 repeated stops not the 25 suggested.) The sequel was gone for the year I left those dust generating pads on! A year too long!

 

I'd love to hear from someone who occasionally tracks. I wouldn't mind switching the pads out, but I would hate to go through the issues I have had in the past again...

 

1521's are not for tracking. Carbotech has a number of other compounds for racing you can search or call Adam to see what the dust issues are with the racing pad options.

 

All Carbotech compounds are compatible so, when switching between the 1521 and the XP series there is no issue of noise. I highly recommend not tracking the 1521 pad. XP series dust is still non corrosive won't harm your wheels or paint and will wash of with soap and water.

 

I'm at the track several weekends a year; I don't track my car as a rule with my 1521's BUT I have, on several occasions, taken a student out in my car for 3 or 4 demo laps (equal to an intermediate groups pace) with no issues with the brakes. You just have to be "VERY" cognizant of the brake peddle feel. Push your speed too hard and they will glaze over and squeal somewhat until you wear off the treated (glazed) pad surface.....

I ran 50K miles with 1521's on my GS; I just changed over my C7 Z51 and can't tell you how happy I am to get rid of all the #&%@ brake dust! Should I ever want to track the car for a full day, changing out the pads are a breeze....it will take longer to jack the car up and pull the wheels that to swap pads.....THANK YOU GM for finally going with top loading calipers; your only 40 years behind the Germans!

 

Hi Brandon. For bedding: the link that Adam provided is a good one for bedding. I had the pads replaced when my Z51 had about 1000 miles on it and the rotors were in great shape. Followed pretty much the same info on the link. Took it out on the freeway early when there was no traffic. Ran it to around 70, and did a hard brake to about 30 or so (not hard enough to engage anti-lock); then ran it back to the speed limit for a few minutes, then the same from 70 to about 30 - for 5 times. By that time I just turned around at the next exit and drove 'normally' back to my place as the brakes cooled back down from that drive. There is one additional instruction that the link Adam provided does not mention, but I found it very useful: after each braking episode, I found it necessary to accelerate at WOT back up to the posted speed. Very satisfying.

For install: I got great install instructions from Adam and could have done it myself no problem - except I just don't have a lot of spare time. So I took a copy of the instructions with the pads and my dealer installed them. I should mention that my servicing dealer is my Cadillac dealer from whom I've purchased several cars. GM authorized them to service my C7 because I'm not a fan of the local Chev dealers. Love my Caddy dealer - they appreciate it when I bring the PDFs from this forum in and they follow the instructions to the letter. No issues with squealing or any noise when installed according to the instructions. I bedded them just to be sure, and they've never, ever made a peep. Hope this helps. Paul

 

Not at all like the stock pads, but the small amount of dusting is easy to clean off rims. With the stock pads a touchless car wash would not clean rims at all, now not 100% but close to 80% of pad residue is washed off.

 

I would say overall yes on stopping power with extremely low levels of dust. Initial bit with cold brakes are defiantly better than stock. Modulation is better than stock hot and cold and less intrusion of ABS system under hard braking. The dust compound also cleans up easy, even with my black wheels.

One thing I noticed stock Z51 pad compound will not mix well with carbotech pads, had to sand all stock compound off rotors when changing to my XP10 track pads, now for track days I just switch out the HWK 5.0 and XP10 pads. Like you I loved Hawk track pads but boy they ate up rotors, that's why for track I switched to Carboteck. NOW with my experience with the new 5.0 pads I will give the DTC-50 a try.

 

My goal now is to run the hottest pad I can without burning up stock rotors autocrossing , I thought about dropping down to HP Plus ( that's a dated compound) from the streetrace pads but once hawk released something better than HPS's (HPS 5.0) I knew this would be rotor safe and a step or two up from stock.




This was a z51 rotor, you don't know what noise and dust is until heard this set up

It's not brake dust I'm cleaning out , it's factory z51 rotor!! Lol