Options for Daily Driver C7
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Options for Daily Driver C7
I have a quick question.
Looking to buy a daily driver C7.
I have decided upon a 2LT coupe and A8.
I am getting Magnetic Ride and a pretty loaded car.
The question is Z51 or not. This is not a which is better blah blah thread.
Car will never be tracked. Ever.
I will be putting A/S 3s on the car upon delivery and it will be driven in all types of weather here in NJ (cold, rain, light snow, etc...)
I'm wondering if the EDiff on the Z51 would help the car in inclement weather as compared to the standard cars mechanical diff.
Can someone chime in on that point alone?
Greatly appreciated.
Looking to buy a daily driver C7.
I have decided upon a 2LT coupe and A8.
I am getting Magnetic Ride and a pretty loaded car.
The question is Z51 or not. This is not a which is better blah blah thread.
Car will never be tracked. Ever.
I will be putting A/S 3s on the car upon delivery and it will be driven in all types of weather here in NJ (cold, rain, light snow, etc...)
I'm wondering if the EDiff on the Z51 would help the car in inclement weather as compared to the standard cars mechanical diff.
Can someone chime in on that point alone?
Greatly appreciated.
Drifting
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From: MI
My Z51 will never be tracked. reason why i got it
-has the better looking rims
-rims come in black
-has NPP
- tighter suspension
I wanted my car to handle more like a sports car on the roads. had nothing to do with tracking. Probably dont need the better brakes, or dry sump oil.
-has the better looking rims
-rims come in black
-has NPP
- tighter suspension
I wanted my car to handle more like a sports car on the roads. had nothing to do with tracking. Probably dont need the better brakes, or dry sump oil.
Last edited by MikeLsx; Jan 18, 2016 at 05:20 PM.
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Rims are the same with magnetic ride option in 2016.
I would get NPP regardless and this is not a $$$ issue.
The question really just is will the electronic differential be better in inclement or cold weather compared to the standard cars mechanical differential?
Nothing else in the Z51 has any bearing on this topic.
I would get NPP regardless and this is not a $$$ issue.
The question really just is will the electronic differential be better in inclement or cold weather compared to the standard cars mechanical differential?
Nothing else in the Z51 has any bearing on this topic.
Burning Brakes
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I have a quick question.
Looking to buy a daily driver C7.
I have decided upon a 2LT coupe and A8.
I am getting Magnetic Ride and a pretty loaded car.
The question is Z51 or not. This is not a which is better blah blah thread.
Car will never be tracked. Ever.
I will be putting A/S 3s on the car upon delivery and it will be driven in all types of weather here in NJ (cold, rain, light snow, etc...)
I'm wondering if the EDiff on the Z51 would help the car in inclement weather as compared to the standard cars mechanical diff.
Can someone chime in on that point alone?
Greatly appreciated.
Looking to buy a daily driver C7.
I have decided upon a 2LT coupe and A8.
I am getting Magnetic Ride and a pretty loaded car.
The question is Z51 or not. This is not a which is better blah blah thread.
Car will never be tracked. Ever.
I will be putting A/S 3s on the car upon delivery and it will be driven in all types of weather here in NJ (cold, rain, light snow, etc...)
I'm wondering if the EDiff on the Z51 would help the car in inclement weather as compared to the standard cars mechanical diff.
Can someone chime in on that point alone?
Greatly appreciated.
Drifting
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,630
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From: MI
Rims are the same with magnetic ride option in 2016.
I would get NPP regardless and this is not a $$$ issue.
The question really just is will the electronic differential be better in inclement or cold weather compared to the standard cars mechanical differential?
Nothing else in the Z51 has any bearing on this topic.
I would get NPP regardless and this is not a $$$ issue.
The question really just is will the electronic differential be better in inclement or cold weather compared to the standard cars mechanical differential?
Nothing else in the Z51 has any bearing on this topic.
Racer
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Do not buy Z51 for a daily driver unless you have a specific reason. The base car is more car than you can use, including suspension that is great. I assume you can get NPP in '16. It's a must, unless you like a quiet car. But if you're a real hot rod, go for the Z51.
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Please, this is not a question about needing performance levels of a Z51 or the fact that the performance of a base coupe with magnetic ride is more than most can handle.
This is a legitimate driveability and safety question.
This is a legitimate driveability and safety question.
Burning Brakes
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Will the e-diff help with traction? Sure. Will you need it? Not as a DD, the threshold between the e-diff and mechanical is arguably only noticeable on the race track at "the limit." The car is still a sports car and has a very advanced stability and control system, e-diff or not. Also note, there are many people who autoX, track, or drag race just fine in a base Corvette, which is kind of a misnomer anyway. It's still a high performance sports car either way.
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Rims are the same with magnetic ride option in 2016.
I would get NPP regardless and this is not a $$$ issue.
The question really just is will the electronic differential be better in inclement or cold weather compared to the standard cars mechanical differential?
Nothing else in the Z51 has any bearing on this topic.
I would get NPP regardless and this is not a $$$ issue.
The question really just is will the electronic differential be better in inclement or cold weather compared to the standard cars mechanical differential?
Nothing else in the Z51 has any bearing on this topic.
Last edited by JerryU; Jan 18, 2016 at 07:09 PM.
Drifting
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A mechanical limited slip diff is a mixed blessing in snow and low traction situations. Sure both wheels try to grip, but then when both spin at the same time you can do a ground loop pretty quickly. Whether the e-diff with traction control engaged would be better and how exactly it behaves in low traction situations is probably something you need to "ask Tadge" about. I don't plan to take mine out in the weather to experiment.
Last edited by raylo; Jan 18, 2016 at 07:10 PM.
Melting Slicks
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I wouldn't expect the e-diff to be better or worse in inclement weather - unless you turn off all driver aids by going to race 2 on a Z51 car, in all other modes the computer addresses wheel slip by reducing power and applying the brakes.
Now if you plan on turning off all traction aides the e-diff might be slightly better as it is computer controlled - good luck with driving a C7 in snow without traction management.
As an all weather car, the Base suspension without MSRC due to its higher sidewall tires will give by far the best performance in the snow if you drop the tire pressure to about 25 psi
Now if you plan on turning off all traction aides the e-diff might be slightly better as it is computer controlled - good luck with driving a C7 in snow without traction management.
As an all weather car, the Base suspension without MSRC due to its higher sidewall tires will give by far the best performance in the snow if you drop the tire pressure to about 25 psi
Melting Slicks
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My Z51 will never be tracked. reason why i got it
-has the better looking rims
-rims come in black
-has NPP
- tighter suspension
I wanted my car to handle more like a sports car on the roads. had nothing to do with tracking. Probably dont need the better brakes, or dry sump oil.
-has the better looking rims
-rims come in black
-has NPP
- tighter suspension
I wanted my car to handle more like a sports car on the roads. had nothing to do with tracking. Probably dont need the better brakes, or dry sump oil.
Last edited by Lou7787; Jan 18, 2016 at 07:47 PM. Reason: Spelling
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BTW the A/S 3's are not a good snow tire.
I eaked through 2 winters with them on both of my other cars including my AWD S4 and it was hairy at times. Brand new they were not bad, but after about 1/2 the tread was worn my S4 sits in the garage while we drive our other car with snow tires.
Supposedly the new AS3+ addresses the snow issue.
If your going to truly DD it in the winter get snow tires.
Me personally the E-diff is worth it alone. Even on the street how much quicker you can get on the power in a corner is a significant difference.
I eaked through 2 winters with them on both of my other cars including my AWD S4 and it was hairy at times. Brand new they were not bad, but after about 1/2 the tread was worn my S4 sits in the garage while we drive our other car with snow tires.
Supposedly the new AS3+ addresses the snow issue.
If your going to truly DD it in the winter get snow tires.
Me personally the E-diff is worth it alone. Even on the street how much quicker you can get on the power in a corner is a significant difference.
Melting Slicks
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Depends on your budget. But for a DD, I'd buy a base 1LT coupe with zero options, and you will have a great car for the price. Any options you add are for cosmetic purposes.
I bought the A8, and can tell you that it is great. No complaints.
I bought the Z51/Mag shock options as I specifically bought it for the track, and they are well with the money to me. For a street-only car, neither is really necessary.
The rest of the options are purely cosmetic. Spend away.
I bought the A8, and can tell you that it is great. No complaints.
I bought the Z51/Mag shock options as I specifically bought it for the track, and they are well with the money to me. For a street-only car, neither is really necessary.
The rest of the options are purely cosmetic. Spend away.
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Sorry, BTW...
The e-Diff gives good traction at full throttle out of a turn on the racetrack... its works.
IMHO it does not make the car safer on the street. Nobody should ever drive a C7 on the street at a speed where the e-Diff makes a difference.
Tires are the single most important performance option on any car. Z51 tire are summer only. You'll end up buying a set of A/S anyway.
The e-Diff gives good traction at full throttle out of a turn on the racetrack... its works.
IMHO it does not make the car safer on the street. Nobody should ever drive a C7 on the street at a speed where the e-Diff makes a difference.
Tires are the single most important performance option on any car. Z51 tire are summer only. You'll end up buying a set of A/S anyway.
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This has nothing to do with the amount I want to spend. I buy a ton of very high end cars.
Currently have an Audi RS7 and I just sold my 2015 911 TurboS. I've had 11 or so Vettes, most recently a '15 Z51 Coupe that I had problems getting comfortable in. Turns out it wasn't the car, it was me. Had to have knee surgery and was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, which is now under control.
The A/S 3s are fine in light snow btw. I wouldn't even think about driving a Vette in anything more than an inch or so and the A/S 3s can absolutely get you home. Anything deeper and a Vette would be an expensive plow.
Currently have an Audi RS7 and I just sold my 2015 911 TurboS. I've had 11 or so Vettes, most recently a '15 Z51 Coupe that I had problems getting comfortable in. Turns out it wasn't the car, it was me. Had to have knee surgery and was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, which is now under control.
The A/S 3s are fine in light snow btw. I wouldn't even think about driving a Vette in anything more than an inch or so and the A/S 3s can absolutely get you home. Anything deeper and a Vette would be an expensive plow.
Drifting
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From: boerne texas
[QUOTE=jweiss12;1591351510]I have a quick question.
Looking to buy a daily driver C7.
I have decided upon a 2LT coupe and A8.
I am getting Magnetic Ride and a pretty loaded car.
The question is Z51 or not. This is not a which is better blah blah thread.
Car will never be tracked. Ever.
I will be putting A/S 3s on the car upon delivery and it will be driven in all types of weather here in NJ (cold, rain, light snow, etc...)
I'm wondering if the EDiff on the Z51 would help the car in inclement weather as compared to the standard cars mechanical diff.
Can someone chime in on that point alone?
Greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE
Daily drive - don't need it. The magnetic ride
Looking to buy a daily driver C7.
I have decided upon a 2LT coupe and A8.
I am getting Magnetic Ride and a pretty loaded car.
The question is Z51 or not. This is not a which is better blah blah thread.
Car will never be tracked. Ever.
I will be putting A/S 3s on the car upon delivery and it will be driven in all types of weather here in NJ (cold, rain, light snow, etc...)
I'm wondering if the EDiff on the Z51 would help the car in inclement weather as compared to the standard cars mechanical diff.
Can someone chime in on that point alone?
Greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE
Daily drive - don't need it. The magnetic ride
Burning Brakes
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There is a video on youtube comparing the standard Torsen Diff and the Torque Vectoring Diff in the Lexus. They're essentially the same thing as what Chevy offers. They go over the benefits of the TVD and driving in snow is not one of them.
Last edited by 95bat; Jan 19, 2016 at 10:10 AM.
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This has nothing to do with the amount I want to spend. I buy a ton of very high end cars.
Currently have an Audi RS7 and I just sold my 2015 911 TurboS. I've had 11 or so Vettes, most recently a '15 Z51 Coupe that I had problems getting comfortable in. Turns out it wasn't the car, it was me. Had to have knee surgery and was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, which is now under control.
The A/S 3s are fine in light snow btw. I wouldn't even think about driving a Vette in anything more than an inch or so and the A/S 3s can absolutely get you home. Anything deeper and a Vette would be an expensive plow.
Currently have an Audi RS7 and I just sold my 2015 911 TurboS. I've had 11 or so Vettes, most recently a '15 Z51 Coupe that I had problems getting comfortable in. Turns out it wasn't the car, it was me. Had to have knee surgery and was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, which is now under control.
The A/S 3s are fine in light snow btw. I wouldn't even think about driving a Vette in anything more than an inch or so and the A/S 3s can absolutely get you home. Anything deeper and a Vette would be an expensive plow.
