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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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I purchased the LBR color simply because the was my favorite of all the choices available. I didn't know the significance of "tintcoat", but it came with that and was an extra cost. I didn't care about the money, that was just simply the color I wanted.
I have been researching the significance of tincoat paint jobs over the conventional and see different "opinions". It seems to me there should be some facts about this subject. I guess I don't think it is open to opinion. I just wanted a consensus on if it is better, worse, or the same as a standard paint job and why you should or shouldn't have a paint job with a tintcoat. Thanks.
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Tint coat is two diff base coats, then clear. At least that's what automotivetouchup.com sells me when I want to spray my garnet tintcoat color.

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I noticed on the Crystal Red especially the C6 had 'Crystal Red Metallic' (drop-dead-gorgeous), then went to 'Crystal Red Tintcoat' (ugly, sorry, my own opinion here).
Too bad they got rid of the metallic flakes, that was beautiful.
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 11:15 AM
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I agree - Cyber gray had the blue fleck metallic in it.
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 11:20 AM
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Tintcoat has little to do with metallic, it's just a combo of a few layers to give a diff look. You can spray metallic with a single basecoat, like cyber gray. As everything still gets a clear coat, durability should be the same.

I have read that tintcoat is a tinted clear, that is not proving to be correct in my info search. Once again, I think GM is saying a few diff things about tintcoat layup.

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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mikez06
I noticed on the Crystal Red especially the C6 had 'Crystal Red Metallic' (drop-dead-gorgeous), then went to 'Crystal Red Tintcoat' (ugly, sorry, my own opinion here).
Too bad they got rid of the metallic flakes, that was beautiful.
uhhhh.. It is the same GM Paint Code WA505Q
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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 11:23 AM
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They label it as Long Beach Red Metallic Tintcoat. When I get it from automotivetouchup I only get the base color, there's no ground and mid coat like glen e gets. When I spray that, it definitely has flakes in it.
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uhhhh.. It is the same GM Paint Code WA505Q
Well, it's certainly not the same color, they even changed the name to reflect no more metallic flakes. We had 2 different C6's, one was the gorgeous CRM, the other was the CRT (very dull). Yes:
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They label it as Long Beach Red Metallic Tintcoat. When I get it from automotivetouchup I only get the base color, there's no ground and mid coat like glen e gets. When I spray that, it definitely has flakes in it.
That is one gorgeous red for sure!
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Originally Posted by Glen e
Tintcoat has little to do with metallic, it's just a combo of a few layers to give a diff look. You can spray metallic with a single basecoat, like cyber gray. As everything still gets a clear coat, durability should be the same.

I have read that tintcoat is a tinted clear,
that is not proving to be correct in my info search. Once again, I think GM is saying a few diff things about tintcoat layup.
Glen I don't know if the Ford, and GM tintcoat paints are the same. But, my F150 has a tintcoat (Ruby Red) that my body shop guy calls a tri-coat paint. I had to have some bad rock chips repaired, and he said the clearcoat actually has a tint making a bit more technical to apply. I do know that the paint is drop dead gorgeous in the sunlight.
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rebel Yell
Glen I don't know if the Ford, and GM tintcoat paints are the same. But, my F150 has a tintcoat (Ruby Red) that my body shop guy calls a tri-coat paint. I had to have some bad rock chips repaired, and he said the clearcoat actually has a tint making a bit more technical to apply. I do know that the paint is drop dead gorgeous in the sunlight.
It's still a two step color paint process. Red tintcoats have red base coat and red tinted clear. Tricoats are the ones that have a ground, mid, and regular clear. All other colors have a base coat, whether it be metallic or not, then a regular clear.
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Originally Posted by Rebel Yell
Glen I don't know if the Ford, and GM tintcoat paints are the same. But, my F150 has a tintcoat (Ruby Red) that my body shop guy calls a tri-coat paint. I had to have some bad rock chips repaired, and he said the clearcoat actually has a tint making a bit more technical to apply. I do know that the paint is drop dead gorgeous in the sunlight.
Yeah i had White Diamond on my CTS and was told it's three paint layers, hence the term Tri-coat... and all the body shop guys complain and charge me 35% more because of it....and the upcharge price is because of that extra layer.
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PPG calls it basecoat, mid coat and clear coat or can be considered 3 stage. The mid coat is transparent and is called tint coat from Chevrolet. To get the final "look", the tint coat is necessary and than clear coat on top of that.
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Originally Posted by BJ67
PPG calls it basecoat, mid coat and clear coat or can be considered 3 stage. The mid coat is transparent and is called tint coat from Chevrolet. To get the final "look", the tint coat is necessary and than clear coat on top of that.
correct... same as I posted above...the two cans; 1 and 2, and then clear...and what automotive touch up explained to me...so I think "tricoat" and "tintcoat" are the same...just diff lingo...

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I have a 2014 that is Crystal Red and I have flake in the paint. My 2008 was also CRM and they sat next to each other for a few weeks and the paint on the 2014 looked to be the same but nicer.

Originally Posted by mikez06
I noticed on the Crystal Red especially the C6 had 'Crystal Red Metallic' (drop-dead-gorgeous), then went to 'Crystal Red Tintcoat' (ugly, sorry, my own opinion here).
Too bad they got rid of the metallic flakes, that was beautiful.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 01:12 AM
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I have a 2014 that is Crystal Red and I have flake in the paint. My 2008 was also CRM and they sat next to each other for a few weeks and the paint on the 2014 looked to be the same but nicer.
All I know is we had 2 C6's that were Crystal Red.
One was metallic, just gorgeous.
The other had no metallic flakes in it at all, and was dull.
(I am drawing a blank on what years they were though )
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Originally Posted by mikez06
I noticed on the Crystal Red especially the C6 had 'Crystal Red Metallic' (drop-dead-gorgeous), then went to 'Crystal Red Tintcoat' (ugly, sorry, my own opinion here).
Too bad they got rid of the metallic flakes, that was beautiful.
Hmm! I purposely got Yellow in my '08 C6 since they changed the color I wanted to a non Tintcoat. I got Tintcoat with my C7, I have what is called Crystal Red Tintcoat since they decided to shorten the name! It is Crystal Red Metallic Tintcoat! It has Metallic (probably aluminum) flake. That is different than the lower cost Torch Red that is not Metallic or Tintcoat.
I think mine is "drop dead gorgeous" but colors are a matter of opinion!
The key with higher cost Tintcoat is the color charges with sunlight and the angle you look at the car! I also still like Yellow! Below are two pics of mine in different daylight.




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Originally Posted by Glen e
Tintcoat has little to do with metallic, it's just a combo of a few layers to give a diff look. You can spray metallic with a single basecoat, like cyber gray. As everything still gets a clear coat, durability should be the same.

I have read that tintcoat is a tinted clear, that is not proving to be correct in my info search. Once again, I think GM is saying a few diff things about tintcoat layup.
It has nothing to do with metallic. There is confusion of exactly what it is. Here is a post I made some time ago, which appears to clear up my confusion:

I recall the decision to swtich Atomic Orange for the 2008 model year away from tintcoat since it was said by GM that they were using tintcoat for the new Blue and "there was only room for so many tintcoat colors." I ordered Velocity Yellow since it was retaining the tintcoat and I was not sure how the Orange would be affected!
I had assumed that the paint was a three part, base, tinted clear and clear coat. Made sense since the comment from GM was they could only handle a limited number of tintcoat colors.
In 2010 a knowledgeable poster said why the higher price! Quoting his post:"Every Corvette that is painted in Bowling Green goes through essentially the same paint process which is comprised of a primer coat, a base (color) coat and a clear coat. Where the "tint coat" colors differ is that a tint (pigment) is added to the clear coat stage to change the final color of the car from what it would be with a conventional clear. Crystal Red Metallic and Jetstream Blue metallic are two of the colors over the model years that have a tint coat in place of a conventional clear coat. These are not tri-stage paints but simply base coat / clear coat paints with a bit of tinting added to the clear. The reason for the additional charge for metallic tint coat colors is as much due to material costs as it is due to labor costs. The tint coats are painted by a clear coat robot that has to be drained down and cleaned to switch between conventional clear coat and tinted clear coat."

The GM comment, "there is only room for so many colors being tinycoat" in '08 for adding one color and having to eliminate another being tintcoat, may just refer to the time it takes in production to clean the clear coat robot(s)!

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When the sun is out nothing looks better, imo, then a car with flake. That is why I wanted CRM and not a flat paint.
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I am sorry I brought this topic up, lol. UNCLE!
I have no pictures or documents to prove what I saw with my own eyes.
LOVE the CRM, tintcoat I know has the paint in the clearcoat (my VY), nothing to do with metallic, didn't mean to imply it did , was just the name.
Metallic rules!
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