Was going to buy a C7, but, the GS fixed the 'problems' with the current Z51
03-01-2016, 11:13 AM
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Was going to buy a C7, but, the GS fixed the 'problems' with the current Z51
I have to admit, I don't care for the Z51 wheels, I don't care for the 'heating issues'. So now there's a newer model that will come out that has those issues fixed. So why would I buy a Z51 now? It's resale is just going to drop once the GS comes out.
I was really hoping for fixes to the current C7s heat issue
I was really hoping for fixes to the current C7s heat issue
03-01-2016, 11:16 AM
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Hey, look, another GS thread. 
What heating issues are you talking about?
The only heating issue is with the Z06, which is a different car than a Stingray with or without the Z51 option package. 
What heating issues are you talking about?
The only heating issue is with the Z06, which is a different car than a Stingray with or without the Z51 option package.
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03-01-2016, 11:16 AM
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Doesn't like you would - it's not for you.
Many others will, though. Each model fills a role.
Pick the one you like, and rock on.
Many others will, though. Each model fills a role.
Pick the one you like, and rock on.
03-01-2016, 11:25 AM
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The GS is a Z51Stingray with different body panels. Don't be fooled.
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03-01-2016, 11:27 AM
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03-01-2016, 11:32 AM
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There was no need to "fix" them on the Z51. The Z51 cooling is perfectly fine for the stock engine and for some level of engine modification. The cooling issues were associated with the stock Z06s.
I would think the upgraded cooling in the GS is targeted to the track guys who are going to modify the engine for more HP. More HP=more heat, therefore more cooling needed.
I would think the upgraded cooling in the GS is targeted to the track guys who are going to modify the engine for more HP. More HP=more heat, therefore more cooling needed.
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03-01-2016, 12:42 PM
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The only heating issues with some Z06's are on the track and that's easily fixed.
My Z06 has 9k miles, I don't race, never had a heating issue and I've driven in NYC bumper to bumper traffic in 95* with no issues. Car runs at 195* in 95* heat and will bump up to 210* in traffic, thats normal for all Vettes.
My Z06 has 9k miles, I don't race, never had a heating issue and I've driven in NYC bumper to bumper traffic in 95* with no issues. Car runs at 195* in 95* heat and will bump up to 210* in traffic, thats normal for all Vettes.
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03-01-2016, 12:54 PM
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I have to admit, I don't care for the Z51 wheels, I don't care for the 'heating issues'. So now there's a newer model that will come out that has those issues fixed. So why would I buy a Z51 now? It's resale is just going to drop once the GS comes out.
I was really hoping for fixes to the current C7s heat issue
I was really hoping for fixes to the current C7s heat issue
03-01-2016, 12:57 PM
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The only heating issues with some Z06's are on the track and that's easily fixed.
My Z06 has 9k miles, I don't race, never had a heating issue and I've driven in NYC bumper to bumper traffic in 95* with no issues. Car runs at 195* in 95* heat and will bump up to 210* in traffic, thats normal for all Vettes.
My Z06 has 9k miles, I don't race, never had a heating issue and I've driven in NYC bumper to bumper traffic in 95* with no issues. Car runs at 195* in 95* heat and will bump up to 210* in traffic, thats normal for all Vettes.
To many here, track ready was interpreted to mean formula 1 ready race car. This the Z06 was never designed to be.
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03-01-2016, 01:05 PM
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I'm looking directly in the brochure from chevrolette, and the impression it gives is completely different from what you're saying. And 'Tadge was clear', then its different from the promos I have in my very hand.
There are heating issues, nevermind that you dismiss them. And they did advertise it as track ready, but its not
There are heating issues, nevermind that you dismiss them. And they did advertise it as track ready, but its not
George Vee, you are spot on. All the damn hype about Z06 heating issues are, in fact, related directly to the track, and as you mentioned fixable. Tadge was clear, track ready, never said it was a race car!!
To many here, track ready was interpreted to mean formula 1 ready race car. This the Z06 was never designed to be.
To many here, track ready was interpreted to mean formula 1 ready race car. This the Z06 was never designed to be.
03-01-2016, 01:22 PM
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03-01-2016, 01:24 PM
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I'm looking directly in the brochure from chevrolette, and the impression it gives is completely different from what you're saying. And 'Tadge was clear', then its different from the promo I have in my very hand.
There are heating issues, nevermind that you dismiss them. And they did advertise it as track ready, but its not
There are heating issues, nevermind that you dismiss them. And they did advertise it as track ready, but its not
03-01-2016, 02:40 PM
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My guess is they are going to put the larger heat exchangers in the rear from the Z06. Why not since the room is there with the Z06 quarters. The Z06 has the larger radiator fan as well, I'm sure that will be in the GS too.
Only Z51 heating issues would be the auto trans, but 2016 Z51 A8s got the Z06 front cooler.
But the GS will get you even bigger brakes, bigger tires and most likely bigger coolers from the Z06. If thats what you want buy one.
Resale would be affected as much as the C6 GS vs the regular C6, not by much. Since the GS costs more it will always sell for more.
Only Z51 heating issues would be the auto trans, but 2016 Z51 A8s got the Z06 front cooler.
But the GS will get you even bigger brakes, bigger tires and most likely bigger coolers from the Z06. If thats what you want buy one.
Resale would be affected as much as the C6 GS vs the regular C6, not by much. Since the GS costs more it will always sell for more.
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03-01-2016, 03:21 PM
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It's a modded Stingray, done by GM. Parts are in house so cost for all will be cheaper than going aftermarket. Heat issues fixed for the A8 as there won't be a A8 in it...7 speed only.Or so posts in other threads have stated.
GM is trying to boost sales and profit, give guys a car with a bunch of mods that are costly by packaging it in Bowling Green, so you still have a Corvette.
Not a track car, not a true GS, just a nice street car...kinda like a ricer. Smart move on GM's part as a lot of guys like the bolted on parts and will buy the car. It will be good looking and have an attitude but it won't be able to back it up.
Larger brakes, different wheels and wider rubber will certainly attract a bunch of buyers who like that look.
Maybe the Callaway version for an extra 25k will put the punch back into the GS moniker,
or Lingenfelter or the local guy in your home town. You know some will do it, buy the car for the look and add a bunch of ponies. Not that that is wrong but I really wish GM would bring out a GS that was/is closer to the original.
GM is trying to boost sales and profit, give guys a car with a bunch of mods that are costly by packaging it in Bowling Green, so you still have a Corvette.
Not a track car, not a true GS, just a nice street car...kinda like a ricer. Smart move on GM's part as a lot of guys like the bolted on parts and will buy the car. It will be good looking and have an attitude but it won't be able to back it up.
Larger brakes, different wheels and wider rubber will certainly attract a bunch of buyers who like that look.
Maybe the Callaway version for an extra 25k will put the punch back into the GS moniker,
or Lingenfelter or the local guy in your home town. You know some will do it, buy the car for the look and add a bunch of ponies. Not that that is wrong but I really wish GM would bring out a GS that was/is closer to the original.
03-01-2016, 03:28 PM
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Other than the different engine, what does it lack that the Z06 has?
Seems like the GS gets the suspension, heat exchangers (minus the FI HE), brakes, (including CCBs if wanted), e-diff and PTM of the Z06 and the aero.
Seems like the GS gets the suspension, heat exchangers (minus the FI HE), brakes, (including CCBs if wanted), e-diff and PTM of the Z06 and the aero.
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03-01-2016, 03:31 PM
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Don't mean to hijack the thread but where is chevy getting the 0-60 in 3.6. How is the GS faster? I thought the regular Z51 A8 was 3.7?
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03-01-2016, 03:34 PM
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Also has better looking wheels than the Z06.