Please vote for window valet question to see if we can get it programmed in our cars!!!

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They probably will not provide retrofit software for older C7's IF they think it's a good idea for 2019 ( the software specs are no doubt already written for 2018 and set in stone!)

Buy a Window Valet for ~$130 from Amazon and get the feature now! Mine works great and a real benefit in the hot summer months! Bought it the first month it was available for the C7 in May 2015.

 

- although it is nice that Tadge does take questions from us lowly customers, but GM and most other OEM's do not bother enhancing features on their older models. They want you to trade in your 1 year old car and buy another.

I don't understand why Top Down Technologies does not see this as opportunity and answer emails from their customers about adding a feature that will see when the trunk is opened and crack the windows automatically if they were closed for us. I would pay hundreds for another Window Valet even though I already owned one if they could develop this feature. Pointless for me to vote to ask Tadge about adding a feature for a new $80K to replace a one year old car!

 

Guys it doesn't matter if they add it in or not to current models, I want to know why it wasn't included! And if they add it to future models that will be cool too! There is usually a reason behind it.

 

It's more than "crack the windows." The only GM bulletin I have seen that was sent to dealers in 2015 about checking a car for hatch closure said to open both windows a minimum of 3 inches! Then if the hatch latches tell the customer is working as designed! As Tadge said at the 2014 BASH they are only "allowed to open an automatically close windows ~1/4 inch for safety reasons." The Window Valet is safe in that you have to press the door lock button to have the windows raise. Hopefully if your dog's head is sticking out you won't close it! Frankly even in my small Internet business liability is a concern. Just takes one person to do something stupid, complain and a lawyer looking for business to have a major cost!

That GM bulletin also discussed loosening the latch screws and closing it several times to be sure it was aligned. Did that as I also adjusted the rubber stops to a point of hatch misalignment and it was no help for latching. I am fine with keeping a door open before closing the hatch or using my Window Valet.

 

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Thanks! In post #9 I remembered the legal requirements correctly, quoting: "At a Bash several years ago Tadge addressed the question "Why not open the windows further?" He said for safety reasons they are not allowed to close the window automatically if it is opened more than 1/4 inch, which is the amount they use to get a good window to weather stripping seal."

Funny, can't remember our anniversary date but retain "gear head trivia!" Now if you want to know the lift and duration of the cam in the 8.2 liter engine in my street rod..."

 

I understand auto indexing is illegal but I'm talking about manual opening & closing of windows with remote.

 

Your post prompted me to go look for it. I remembered the Q&A discussion as well. I was interested in his answer because, about ten years ago, we were looking at developing an auto up window strategy. We backed off due to the considerations Tadge discussed. Our primary focus was to monitor the window motor current and position to determine if there was a pinch. This proved to be unreliable due to variations in the stall current due to variations in window motors, switches, window tracks, window to seal fit, ambient temperature, ice build up etc.

 

That is what Window Valet does for ~$130. Just put the words on Amazon. Bought one when they first came out for the C7 in 2015.

 

I know but rather not give up my OBD port and also they should offer it from factory. Hence my ask Tadge question! Vote so we can see what his response is!!!

 

In addition to my Internet business I consult as an expert wittiness. Did that for welding fumes and just finished this year on a very large welding case. When you see what can happen when someone does something obviously wrong but has a very good lawyer and the defense very deep pockets, with the risk of a jury trial, you shudder! This one settled but probably for over 50 million dollars since they were suing for ~500 million!

 

I would think remote down would be possible but not remote up. There is a possibility someone would remote up without a line of sight to the car. Therefore you could inadvertently pinch someone. Then GM will wind up in court.

 

I'm sure even if the engineers wanted to do it, the GM lawyers could block it!

In a former life someone sued us because our leather welding gloves did not stop molten metal! If you have deep pockets-get ready! This is the warning I put on the instructions for a leather cable cover we now sell. It is officially one used!



Warning Labels do help in Court. Like the one I had on a pair of jack stands that stated, "Do Not Get Under Car When in Use!"

 

I'd be happy with just remote down by pressing and holding unlock button. It's offered in other models already. Please vote!!!

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I understand the liability involved in GM performing such programming changes to write a program to do this. I wonder if there is anyone out there with the programming capability to do something independently?

 

Apparently there are: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...he-engine.html

And perhaps someone that worked at a company like http://www.dashlogic.com/ could do it.

 

Even for a small company with limited liability, on paper as an LLC, if a child had their head stuck I would be concerned about a lawsuit. That is why the car companies had to move away from window switches you push to bring the windows up to ones that must be pulled up. Apparently some children put their knee on the switch when their head was sticking out of the window and were seriously injured.

We have an ad running on local TV by a "For Injured People" attorney. In says we were able to get 2 million dollars from someone who only had $200,000 in car insurance. He is proud he took their house, investments, cars etc! And no doubt 40% of the settlement plus expenses.

Several months after I retired I was back to my old office and a young lady was copying every page of a stack of magazines on my desk, in regard to a litigation the company was in. She was insulted when I asked if she was a secretary and said no she was an attorney (from one of the top law firms in the State.). I asked why and she said I may have written something on a page that was relevant to the case and the attorneys assigned to the case would evaluate each sheet! I'm sure her rate with overhead, share of the law firm jet etc was pretty high!

Juries give outrageous settlement amounts and the attorniies do far better than the person injured!

 

I guess I was looking for individuals with computer programming savvy.

If you google BMW coding it is basically referring to geeks that can program new function in to your car. Opening one window, horn beeping x times to indicate something. It would be like tuning for function and not performance. You don't purchase this from any one company, sometimes donations are requested. You do these downloads at your own risk. Same as tunes when it comes to warranties.

Well I have kicked the dead horse enough. I will now settle for opening my door before closing the hatch.

 

Yeah that would be great! I did the same with my Audi. Please vote for this question though and maybe we can get it programmed!!!

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