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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 07:25 PM
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Default 2017 AFM, is it true?

I saw a comment in another thread that for 2017 the AFM valves in the exhaust have been eliminated in Z51 and GS like the Z06. Is this true? Maybe a production mod due to all the reported melting actuators at the track? And maybe a reason to move up to a GS. ;-)
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 07:36 PM
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Not true. My A8 Grand Sport has AFM valves before the mufflers and the dual mode (NPP) valves after the mufflers.
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OK, I forgot one detail... the comment I read said M7s only.

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Not true. My A8 Grand Sport has AFM valves before the mufflers and the dual mode (NPP) valves after the mufflers.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by raylo
OK, I forgot one detail... the comment I read said M7s only.
My understanding is that the M7 also has AFM valves, but they can be disabled my staying out of ECO mode.

Maybe someone can confirm this for us.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 08:07 PM
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^^^ Correct. ^^^
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My M7 Grand Sport definitely has no AFM valves. Just crawled under car and verified.

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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 08:09 PM
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Correct, from the beginning (14 model year), you only see a V4 in the Economy mode on the M7. My understanding is that the AFM valves only close when the engine operates as a V4.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 08:43 PM
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People are talking about two different things in this thread. One, operation of AFM with the engine - i.e. going from V8 to V4 and back. Two, whether the exhaust system has the upstream valves previously utilized on Stingray, but not Z06.

It appears M7 stingrays and GS don't have the AFM exhaust valves. Operation of AFM w/ the M7 for the engine remains the same - i.e. must be in eco mode for it to activate.

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Originally Posted by OnPoint
People are talking about two different things in this thread. One, operation of AFM with the engine - i.e. going from V8 to V4 and back. Two, whether the exhaust system has the upstream valves previously utilized on Stingray, but not Z06.

It appears M7 stingrays and GS don't have the AFM exhaust valves. Operation of AFM w/ the M7 for the engine remains the same - i.e. must be in eco mode for it to activate.
Well, we do have one member above who swears his '17 GS A8 has the AFM valves. See post #2.

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Originally Posted by Foosh
Well, we do have one member above who swears his '17 GS A8 has the AFM valves.
He is correct. A8 does.
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Yes, typical thread creep to get into questions that weren't asked. So it appears the 2017 M7s are now set up like th Z06's have been, w/o AFM valves in the exhaust pipes. That was the only thing I was asking about. I sure wish my 2016 Z51 M7 did not have these since they seem to be a semi-common point of failure and I tend to keep my cars for a long time. Probably an expensive repair sometime down the road.

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Originally Posted by dmhines
He is correct. A8 does.
Exactly my point to Onpoint, who apparently didn't get it exactly right w/ regard to the GS.

To me, the AFM's have always been essentially irrelevant to M7 owners from the beginning.

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Originally Posted by Foosh
Well, we do have one member above who swears his '17 GS A8 has the AFM valves. See post #2.
Correct. Which is consistent with what I said. I.e. it's the M7 cars without it.

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Originally Posted by OnPoint
Correct. Which is consistent with what I said. I.e. it's the M7 cars without it.
OK, that's accurate, but unless you edited by now, you previously said GS did not have it. I interpreted that statement to mean both M7 and A8 cars.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
OK, that's accurate, but unless you edited by now, you previously said GS did not have it. I interpreted that statement to mean both M7 and A8 cars.
What I said was M7 Stingrays and GS don't have it, which I thought clearly imparted the meaning of M7 configuration in both.

I suppose I should have said M7 Stingrays and M7 GSs.

My apologies.
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LOL . . . no apology necessary. I am a VERY literal reader.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
LOL . . . no apology necessary. I am a VERY literal reader.

Yeah - tho nothing wrong with that. Funny thing is, I am too. In fact I'm paid well to be.

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mine does not have them in the exaust
just like GM put carbon flash grill in the first 20 GS built for there shows and left us with plain black LOL

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Originally Posted by dmhines
My M7 Grand Sport definitely has no AFM valves. Just crawled under car and verified.
auto?
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auto?
M7 means manual 7 speed.
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