500 mile Z51 oil change in AM!
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As for Mobil 1 (if it matters to you). If you don't they'll put in a bulk Dexos-approved synthetic, which is probably OK, but many of us would rather just stick with Mobil 1.
Also ask that they only put 9 quarts in and give you the 10th quart so you can adjust the level when you get home.
Dry sump cars have a very specific oil check process. Per the owner's manual, the oil needs to be hot, and the level needs to be checked between 5 and 10 minutes after engine shutdown. I've experimented with checking earlier and later than that time frame, and the level does indeed vary dramatically, as the oil from the dry sump tank is either very high early, or very low as it drains out of the dry sump tank.
Many of us like to keep the level at the middle hash mark, and if every drop of oil is drained, which isn't always the case, 10 quarts will put it at the top of the hash mark. Some have reported oil in the air intake when even slightly overfilled.
Also ask that they only put 9 quarts in and give you the 10th quart so you can adjust the level when you get home.
Dry sump cars have a very specific oil check process. Per the owner's manual, the oil needs to be hot, and the level needs to be checked between 5 and 10 minutes after engine shutdown. I've experimented with checking earlier and later than that time frame, and the level does indeed vary dramatically, as the oil from the dry sump tank is either very high early, or very low as it drains out of the dry sump tank.
Many of us like to keep the level at the middle hash mark, and if every drop of oil is drained, which isn't always the case, 10 quarts will put it at the top of the hash mark. Some have reported oil in the air intake when even slightly overfilled.
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I didn't do that, and discoverer a cracked rocker much later.
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That is horrible as you can clearly see the jack pads you installed. I submit that the dealer you used did not have a Corvette tech.
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This dealership apparently doesn't have jack pucks, they told me they use blocks of wood.
I discovered the damage while installing the pucks. I guess I should of gotten and installed them sooner.
I discovered the damage while installing the pucks. I guess I should of gotten and installed them sooner.
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ask if they have a drive on lift or 4 arm lift; the drive on does no damage;and, make sure they drain 2 plugs on the oil pan; as others said, watch them like a hawk; and, I changed mine at 900 miles,so, a few extra will not blow the engine. LOL
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Had the 600 mile service done in Norfolk where i bought it. Checked it 7 minutes after i got home and it was slightly below the top hash mark. Luckily, Rick Hendrick Chevrolet sells quite a few Corvettes and have the big Corvette guy in town in sales there. Hopefully they watch out and so far so good. Got my Ron Fellows coupon so hey now.
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Are you telling me that dealerships don't put in jacking pucks for you when they change your oil NOR have proper equipment to lift a Corvette?
How is it fair that the responsibility falls on the consumer to buy their own jacking pucks? (I for one never would have known about this, had it not been for these Forums and I'm sure there are many who still do not know).
PS. If I have Z06 side skirts installed, how will they lift my car w/o jacking pucks? They cant just put it under the side skirts or it will damage them, no?
How is it fair that the responsibility falls on the consumer to buy their own jacking pucks? (I for one never would have known about this, had it not been for these Forums and I'm sure there are many who still do not know).
PS. If I have Z06 side skirts installed, how will they lift my car w/o jacking pucks? They cant just put it under the side skirts or it will damage them, no?
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As for Mobil 1 (if it matters to you). If you don't they'll put in a bulk Dexos-approved synthetic, which is probably OK, but many of us would rather just stick with Mobil 1.
Also ask that they only put 9 quarts in and give you the 10th quart so you can adjust the level when you get home.
Dry sump cars have a very specific oil check process. Per the owner's manual, the oil needs to be hot, and the level needs to be checked between 5 and 10 minutes after engine shutdown. I've experimented with checking earlier and later than that time frame, and the level does indeed vary dramatically, as the oil from the dry sump tank is either very high early, or very low as it drains out of the dry sump tank.
Many of us like to keep the level at the middle hash mark, and if every drop of oil is drained, which isn't always the case, 10 quarts will put it at the top of the hash mark. Some have reported oil in the air intake when even slightly overfilled.
Also ask that they only put 9 quarts in and give you the 10th quart so you can adjust the level when you get home.
Dry sump cars have a very specific oil check process. Per the owner's manual, the oil needs to be hot, and the level needs to be checked between 5 and 10 minutes after engine shutdown. I've experimented with checking earlier and later than that time frame, and the level does indeed vary dramatically, as the oil from the dry sump tank is either very high early, or very low as it drains out of the dry sump tank.
Many of us like to keep the level at the middle hash mark, and if every drop of oil is drained, which isn't always the case, 10 quarts will put it at the top of the hash mark. Some have reported oil in the air intake when even slightly overfilled.
Thought I would add a concern about NOT specifying Mobil 1 or at least a 100% synthetic oil by listing the number of GM dexos approved oil brands that was over 100. Funny my former link to the GM list, no longer works! Several tries in a few google searches using different key words did not come up with the current list! Did find an article that listed some 25 new names that also discussed some companies that are no longer paying GM their tribute! Some names are from oil companies or packagers I never heard of that a buddy calls "Oh So Peachy" brand reflecting who knows what your getting!
GM dexos can be an oil blend and NOT full synthetic. The dealer service manager can buy whatever dexos approved oil they can get the cheapest that comes in 55 gallon drums they pump from in their oil change bay. To use Mobil 1 they may have to buy more expensive quart containers (several forum pics show such containers.)
I've seen forum comments that they were told by the service manager, "We're required to fill it and can't leave it low;" "Yes we'll use Mobil 1," but then it's found that is not what it says on the receipt etc .
Therefore I think the suggestion of asking for a fill of 9 quarts and give me the 10th is a great one because it also gets past any BS!
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Make sure they wipe the oil cap clean and don't spill any oil. A common issue for the first few hundred miles after a change is an oil smell in the cabin. This has been identified as oil residue on the oil cap. You may notice it but it will go away.... if you notice it, wipe the cap and filler neck clean...
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She said, "Don't worry I will have the mechanic use our alignment rack (drive on ramps, they have one) since we just cracked a Vette rocker panel and I am having to deal with it!"
To the question about the dealer having jack pads-they may but mechanics are often in a hurry and on commission and may not want to go to the tool crib to get them out! They just move those large frame pads somewhere under the frame! Works for 99% of what they work on!
If you have side skirts consider that those fixed pads May Not be high enough to clear the side skirts. I purchased four 2 inch high pads for that reason! Need those for a tires shop etc. Mine cannot be left in. There are one from ReverseLogic, a forum vendor, that can be secured temporarily for a visit to the dealer/tire shop..
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I don't know why they don't just use a rack or pit if its just an oil change. Its too much hassle to lift this low of a car.
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For anyone in Minnesota I highly recommend Ryan Chevrolet in Buffalo.
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This dealer, as do many, has center post lifts. If doing a brake job they need the car suspended from the frame or center body. Only ramp lift they have is used for front end alignment.
Last edited by JerryU; 09-09-2016 at 09:11 PM.
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Just had my 500 mile oil change done 2 weeks ago.
I didn't think about the rockers!!!! Now i have to go check my car tomorrow!
Either way i made sure with the service writer that mobil 1 was going in, SHE said, yes she, said mobil 1 is automatic fill on corvettes.
The dealer has their own express lube station with 2 lifts, i assume for all the oil changes chevy provides with car purchases etc. Or maybe for tire rotations as well. My car was done in like 30 minutes. Lots of kids working at that dealer but the dealer had good reviews and was recommended by a few locals.
God now i won't be able to sleep tonight knowing if they did destroy my rockers lifting the car. ahhhhhhh
I didn't think about the rockers!!!! Now i have to go check my car tomorrow!
Either way i made sure with the service writer that mobil 1 was going in, SHE said, yes she, said mobil 1 is automatic fill on corvettes.
The dealer has their own express lube station with 2 lifts, i assume for all the oil changes chevy provides with car purchases etc. Or maybe for tire rotations as well. My car was done in like 30 minutes. Lots of kids working at that dealer but the dealer had good reviews and was recommended by a few locals.
God now i won't be able to sleep tonight knowing if they did destroy my rockers lifting the car. ahhhhhhh
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Just had my 500 mile oil change done 2 weeks ago.
I didn't think about the rockers!!!! Now i have to go check my car tomorrow!
Either way i made sure with the service writer that mobil 1 was going in, SHE said, yes she, said mobil 1 is automatic fill on corvettes.
The dealer has their own express lube station with 2 lifts, i assume for all the oil changes chevy provides with car purchases etc. Or maybe for tire rotations as well. My car was done in like 30 minutes. Lots of kids working at that dealer but the dealer had good reviews and was recommended by a few locals.
God now i won't be able to sleep tonight knowing if they did destroy my rockers lifting the car. ahhhhhhh
I didn't think about the rockers!!!! Now i have to go check my car tomorrow!
Either way i made sure with the service writer that mobil 1 was going in, SHE said, yes she, said mobil 1 is automatic fill on corvettes.
The dealer has their own express lube station with 2 lifts, i assume for all the oil changes chevy provides with car purchases etc. Or maybe for tire rotations as well. My car was done in like 30 minutes. Lots of kids working at that dealer but the dealer had good reviews and was recommended by a few locals.
God now i won't be able to sleep tonight knowing if they did destroy my rockers lifting the car. ahhhhhhh
Note your post was made at 10.12 PM. A "TRUE" Vette enthusiast would get a flashlight and check now!
Since your waiting for daylight might as well also check the level! Take a drive to get the oil hot, then 5 minutes after you shut off the engine pull out the dip stick and check the level. Since your changing oil at 500 miles assume you have a Z51, GS or Z06. Be sure to check the level before 10 minutes since oil slowly drains back from the dry sump tank to the oil pan and you'll get a false low reading. It's all in the Owner's Manual, page 232 of the 2017 Owner's Manual (checked and it still says between 5 and 1o minutes!) I find with new clean oil I need to rotate the dip stick in the sun to clearly see the level. It's like reading a thermometer! Might have to check twice. You have ~5 minutes!
Note the Caution on page 233. I'll repeat a key point: "Oil levels above or below the acceptable operating range shown on the dipstick are harmful to the engine. If ... the engine has so much oil that the oil level gets above the cross-hatched area ... the engine could be damaged. You should drain out the excess oil or limit driving of the vehicle and seek a service professional to remove the excess amount of oil."
If in a hurry, some "mechanics helpers" who often operate the oil change bay may not take the time to warm up the oil, wait 5 minutes and check the level (as clearly defined as required in the Service Manual.) Reports of overfilling and oil dripping from the air cleaner have been reported. FWIW
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