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Old Apr 10, 2017 | 09:13 PM
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My wireless carrier is AT&T (who also provides OnStar service for 2015 and later vehicles) and my 2016 Z06 has service in areas where my iPhone struggles and often fails to provide service. Although the antenna location in the C7 isn't as well located (in terms of coverage) as the roof mount on most other GM cars it is still far more efficient than those located in the phone. I believe the OnStar unit also has higher output power since it isn't restricted to the same power level as a handheld phone (near field RF exposure to human tissue regulations).
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Old Apr 10, 2017 | 09:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm totally destroyed.
Carry on and lighten up -- less stress means you'll live longer.
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Who said I was stressed?

Here's a hint - you did - I didn't...
Glad to hear it -- hate to see any fellow Corvette fan felled by health issues!
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Old Apr 10, 2017 | 09:26 PM
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android auto gets my vote
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 08:08 AM
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Crash assistance? Fords have a setting to automatically dial 911 using your cell when a crash is detected. No subscription required. I assumed GM now had this as well. I never really bothered to look.
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by falconhulk
Crash assistance? Fords have a setting to automatically dial 911 using your cell when a crash is detected. No subscription required. I assumed GM now had this as well. I never really bothered to look.
I don't think GM has that... I believe GM Crash Assistance is strictly through OnStar, which has its own cell connection, so no need to use your personal cell. No subscription -- no call. That's one of the reasons some people keep at least the minimum OnStar plan active.

When I had my C6GS, GM gave me 3+ years OnStar basic for FREE (which includes Crash Assistance), even though I bought my car used. I think they still offer something like that for C7, but haven't checked it out yet. So if that's the case, I'd rather have the car's cell connection used.
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 01:14 PM
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For many years GM has also been using OnStar modules equipped with a lithium backup battery to allow it to still call for assistance even if the vehicle battery or connecting bus is damaged in a crash. No system is damage proof but this is a lot more robust than depending upon a car telemetrics system maintaining its power AND retaining connectivity with a cellphone which has probably destroyed itself anyway in a serious crash.
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NSC5
For many years GM has also been using OnStar modules equipped with a lithium backup battery to allow it to still call for assistance even if the vehicle battery or connecting bus is damaged in a crash. No system is damage proof but this is a lot more robust than depending upon a car telemetrics system maintaining its power AND retaining connectivity with a cellphone which has probably destroyed itself anyway in a serious crash.


I think that's a stretch. Cell phones have batteries. I have been in numerous accidents where my cell phone was not damaged at all. Including one where I was spun in circles going 60mph. The only advantage onstar would have is its hard wired rather than Bluetooth. But hey, if OnStar makes you feel safe, knock yourself out.
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by falconhulk
I think that's a stretch. Cell phones have batteries. I have been in numerous accidents where my cell phone was not damaged at all. Including one where I was spun in circles going 60mph. The only advantage onstar would have is its hard wired rather than Bluetooth. But hey, if OnStar makes you feel safe, knock yourself out.
Another possible advantage is that the OnStar "crash call" will work regardless of whether your personal cell phone is working, or regardless of who is in the car.

*Ever forget your cell phone at home or the office?
*Ever have an unexpected dead cell phone battery?
*Ever have your BT connection broken?
*Ever forgot to turn your phone back on from Airplane mode?
*Ever have someone else drive your car without you in it? (No one ever drives my car but me, but I assume it happens to others)

For me, the above are rare events, but they *have* happened.
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
Another possible advantage is that the OnStar "crash call" will work regardless of whether your personal cell phone is working, or regardless of who is in the car.

*Ever forget your cell phone at home or the office?
*Ever have an unexpected dead cell phone battery?
*Ever have your BT connection broken?
*Ever forgot to turn your phone back on from Airplane mode?
*Ever have someone else drive your car without you in it? (No one ever drives my car but me, but I assume it happens to others)

For me, the above are rare events, but they *have* happened.


Your that one guy that buys GM\ATT's unlimited data plan aren't you?
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 03:45 PM
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Your that one guy that buys GM\ATT's unlimited data plan aren't you?
Nope. I point out real world possibilities and you try to take a swipe at me... LOL

Just pointing out possibilities where your cell phone connection to your car might not be available in an accident.

Cheer up, man... things will get better.
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 03:49 PM
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Again, pretty much the one reason I have Onstar for. Crash Assistance. If I'm knocked out or injured in a bad crash, no cellphone will dial 911 of its own accord :P

For data I have T-Mobile's Syncup Drive stuck in the OBD slot, 10GB free every month and the device itself was free - both thanks to their Black Friday promotions.

No nav can beat Google Maps via Android Auto. But the car nav has helped me out when I'm in a remote location in the mountains with no coverage (and I mean no Verizon-coverage-remote :P ) By car nav, I mean the stock 3LT nav, I haven't ever bothered calling Onstar to ask for directions.

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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 03:56 PM
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If Onstar had been available when I first started driving, I'd have saved $12,960 so far at the $20 level without ever pressing the button except to sign up at the dealership.
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
Another possible advantage is that the OnStar "crash call" will work regardless of whether your personal cell phone is working, or regardless of who is in the car.
The chances that I get into an accident and for some reason my cell phone is not working are minuscule!

*Ever forget your cell phone at home or the office?
Actually no. You see when I'm driving I'm usually under AA/GM control and listening to media from my phone so driving away and not having that would immediately cause me to go back to my home or office and get my phone. Actually I usually have a bluetooth headset around my neck and if I get out of bluetooth range it vibrates and I head back to get my phone.

*Ever have an unexpected dead cell phone battery?
Again, no, usually I see the battery level is low. Beside I can simply plug it in.

*Ever have your BT connection broken?
Never.

*Ever forgot to turn your phone back on from Airplane mode?
Simple - I never use Airplane mode - especially in airplanes! Yes I'm the dick who keeps running his phone while in flight because the warnings of it causing a disturbance for the plane are complete and utter BS! How do I know. See the first sentence. Demonstrable prove of decades.

*Ever have someone else drive your car without you in it? (No one ever drives my car but me, but I assume it happens to others)
Well I'm like you - I drive my car. But if somebody else is driving my car then that's their problem.

For me, the above are rare events, but they *have* happened.
So rare as to making the $120/year or so for OnStar a dumb investment IMHO.

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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
Nope. I point out real world possibilities and you try to take a swipe at me... LOL

Just pointing out possibilities where your cell phone connection to your car might not be available in an accident.

Cheer up, man... things will get better.


That's not a swipe brother. Its called internet conversation. Most of what you infer is incorrect. Things are good for me. I don't try to offend or take offense from people staring at screens.
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Old Apr 11, 2017 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by falconhulk
That's not a swipe brother. Its called internet conversation. Most of what you infer is incorrect. Things are good for me. I don't try to offend or take offense from people staring at screens.
Sorry, I guess I misunderstood when you implied I was "that guy" who bought the ATT Unlimited plan.

Well, no worries.
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Old Apr 13, 2017 | 12:55 AM
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Paying the retail cost of $20/month or the discounted cost of $10/month simply to be able to contact someone if you are in a crash seems ridiculous. In this world everyone carries a cell phone and if you are in a crash (how many have you been in?) and are knocked out some passerby will call for you.

In that one in ten million chance you are driving the Tail of the Dragon and go off road and over a cliff than I suppose it would be useful. So if that or Pikes Peak is your thing I suppose it might be worth it.
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