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6" and 145#? Dude, cheeseburger!.... add the fries too, and possibly a shake.
I really don't think it's the foam. I've looked at the threads about drilling. I just think it's the design of the seat pan. (if what we're talking about is at the base of the seat bottom at the back) It's just too narrow. There are two points (for lack of a better term), right at the back, that push into your butt.
And yes the wallet is out.
IIRC the seat base pans for both the GT and comp seats are the same.
I believe that the bottom foam is harder(firmer) in the comp seats vs the touring seats(at least they do to me). That causes the bolsters to dig into the thighs.
Drilling the bolsters allow the bolsters to flatten out more, effectively widening the seat bottom, making it more comfortable for the 95% that drive their cars on the street and not on the track.
I have a C6 Z06 and I don't have a problem with the seat holding me in place, but I'm a 95 percenter. I believe that GM should design the car to meet the needs/wants of the 95 percenters and let the 5 percenters modify their cars to suit their needs/wants on the track. If I wanted to make my car onto a track car, I would put really good track seats into the car and not complain that GM screwed us(the 5 percenters) with seats that were designed for the 95 percenters..
disclaimer: the design of the C5 and C6 seats are terrible in that they allowed the bottom seat frame(aluminum) to cut/tear into the bolster foam and allows the wires/springs to cut into the bottom seat foam. $95 paid to a custom upholstery shop fixed that by covering the vertical fame rails with three layers of leather and then added a 1/2" x 1/2" x the length of the frame rail, strip of denser foam, plus adding a piece of carpeting between the wires/springs and the bottom seat foam, and then adding 1/4" of denser foam on top of the carpeting pad. After that repair, they function quite well, as I can drive on a city street or an Interstate highway all day(95% of my mileage) and have a comfortable ride, and still have fun in the twisties(5% of my mileage).
It's clear that it's not just height and weight that determine comfort, but something about build. I'm 6'2" 180 and the seat bottoms are uncomfortable, and I don't think it matters whether it's the gt or comp seats. (I have the comp seats, but sat in both before I bought. Both were uncomfortable. I think my hips are too wide for the seat.)
Maybe the solution is adjustable bottom bolsters? The top bolsters are adjustable, why not the bottom ones?
The history is the C4 seats (especially the early ones) were very good but constrained people too much so GM listened to the Customer and and changed the seats to permit broader butts, this made the seats less supportive. When the C5 came along they went to the extreme and carried the seat type into the C6. The seats accommodated large butts but were generally panned in the press and by a large number of enthusiasts due to lack of lateral support. Everybody had to replace their seats with aftermarket seats just to go for a sporting drive, go to an HPDE or an autocross. Otherwise, the occupants slid all around on the seat. With the C7 GM aimed for the European influenced younger crowd and enthusiasts who were clamoring for supportive seats and we now have two seat choices that work very well. The butt doesn't slide around very much and the seat back side bolsters hold the torso in place. The C5 and C6 small bench seats are gone. Broader butts suffer some so the rest of us can have a supportive seat that holds us in place when the steering wheel is turned.
I instructed an Advanced Level Student at VIR last month in an 09 C6Z with the stock seats. Compared to the C7s I have ridden in and the one I drive the seat was horrible. Even with the lap and shoulder belts cinched tight as possible my upper body was sliding back and forth and I had to hold onto the door handle and wedge my legs outward to keep myself in place.
From my point of view I hope they never go back to the seat designs of the previous 20 years.
Bill
Good post. I never thought of it that way. I'm the 6ft 145 dude, and I like the curves and cornering around 1G. That driver seat holds me in just right. And I'm glad I never ate a lot of cheeseburgers.
Good post. I never thought of it that way. I'm the 6ft 145 dude, and I like the curves and cornering around 1G. That driver seat holds me in just right. And I'm glad I never ate a lot of cheeseburgers.
I was a 6 footer 145 pounder when I was in my teens and twenties, but after years of cheese burgers and fries(and 4 heart attacks), I'm now 5' 11" and 215 pounds.
That's what another 50 years does to you. Very few people weigh at 75 years old what they weighed at 25 years old. Oh, and I eat a hearth healthy diet 95% of the time, but can't do a lot of exercise so I have trouble getting my weight down to a more reasonable 185 pounds.
I was a 6 footer 145 pounder when I was in my teens and twenties, but after years of cheese burgers and fries(and 4 heart attacks), I'm now 5' 11" and 215 pounds.
That's what another 50 years does to you. Very few people weigh at 75 years old what they weighed at 25 years old. Oh, and I eat a hearth healthy diet 95% of the time, but can't do a lot of exercise so I have trouble getting my weight down to a more reasonable 185 pounds.
Yep. Everyone is different. I am the same as when I was 18. My dad was the same way. But you never know. He died in his sleep at 63 years old. I'm 69 now and could be on borrowed time. That may be why I have so many miles on my Vette. Almost 31,000 and have only had it for 16 mos. Enjoy each day like it may be your last.
Yep. Everyone is different. I am the same as when I was 18. My dad was the same way. But you never know. He died in his sleep at 63 years old. I'm 69 now and could be on borrowed time. That may be why I have so many miles on my Vette. Almost 31,000 and have only had it for 16 mos. Enjoy each day like it may be your last.
My Dad's youngest brother is like that. He is going on 89 years old and only has a slight tummy. He's 6'4" and weights around 200 pounds. He probably only weighs 20 pounds more than when he was in his 20's. His two sons are huge well over 300 pounds each, as are his grandkids.
Now my sister is just the opposite. She is 64 had really put on the pounds. When she was young she was petite and she has doubled her weight.