A8 Transmission failure tracking
#1041
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I have a 2017 GS automatic with 3300 miles. The last time I drove it was to back it out the garage to wash it and pull it back into the garage when I was done. This morning when I put it into reverse, it would not move. It would not go forward either. I put it in neutral. Let it set. I probably repeated these steps three times all the while checking underneath the car to confirm that nothing was blocking the tires. I also checked the parking brake. I’m not a ‘car guy’ so I don’t know what’s happening but this has me freaked out.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Last edited by joemessman; 03-15-2019 at 04:51 PM.
#1042
Instructor
Before having it towed, I would try putting it into reverse and give it a little more gas getting out of your garage. It could be simply rust between the brake pads and the rotors. If that doesn't work, then it's something more serious.
#1043
Extremely high likelihood that the pads are stuck to the rotor. This can happen with any vehicle but the very large pads/swept area means with a Corvette the "lock" will be far more solid. Does the engine appear to be under load when you apply a little throttle in forward and reverse? Try rocking between forward and reverse a few times and they will probably break loose.
After washing or driving in the rain it is a very good idea to drag the brakes enough to generate some heat. This problem rarely occurs from driving in the rain because enough heat is naturally built up during driving to "drive" out the moisture that leads to rust but washing the car and pulling it into the garage is the perfect plan to create this pad to rotor lock.
After washing or driving in the rain it is a very good idea to drag the brakes enough to generate some heat. This problem rarely occurs from driving in the rain because enough heat is naturally built up during driving to "drive" out the moisture that leads to rust but washing the car and pulling it into the garage is the perfect plan to create this pad to rotor lock.
#1044
So I was able to get it to drive. I drove it to work and drove it home. About twenty minutes each way. It’s vibrating/shuddering. I’m taking it to the dealership. Something is not right. Hoping I haven’t made a mistake buying GM.
Last edited by Burnsie; 03-15-2019 at 07:28 PM.
#1045
#1046
Extremely high likelihood that the pads are stuck to the rotor. This can happen with any vehicle but the very large pads/swept area means with a Corvette the "lock" will be far more solid. Does the engine appear to be under load when you apply a little throttle in forward and reverse? Try rocking between forward and reverse a few times and they will probably break loose.
After washing or driving in the rain it is a very good idea to drag the brakes enough to generate some heat. This problem rarely occurs from driving in the rain because enough heat is naturally built up during driving to "drive" out the moisture that leads to rust but washing the car and pulling it into the garage is the perfect plan to create this pad to rotor lock.
After washing or driving in the rain it is a very good idea to drag the brakes enough to generate some heat. This problem rarely occurs from driving in the rain because enough heat is naturally built up during driving to "drive" out the moisture that leads to rust but washing the car and pulling it into the garage is the perfect plan to create this pad to rotor lock.
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#1049
Team Owner
i have a difficult time believing that a “fill” issue causes the problem. Changing the fluid viscosity is also suspect. If this is true, research development and testing are severely lacking before a product is available on the market. I hope it is that simple.
Last edited by rkhegler; 03-17-2019 at 08:42 AM.
#1050
The only factory fill problems were with the rear differential level (under filled early production) and proper filling of the Z06 intercooler system where too much air was left in the tank causing the pump to shut down. Fill level wasn't an issue with the 8L90 and either under or over-filling would cause a host of symptoms (slippage, failure to engage, overheating, etc. but not shudder)..
My 2016 Z06 has been fine thus far running on its original fluid and the second gen torque converter (it has its original torque converter and the changeover occurred before it was built in March 2016). It is never allowed to go into V4 mode which helps to prevent GM's clutch destroying programming.
#1051
Team Owner
Viscosity was the change for the first revised fluid, they are now blaming the original two fluid versions for being hygroscopic which is the formula change for fluid number version number 3. I share you skepticism.
The only factory fill problems were with the rear differential level (under filled early production) and proper filling of the Z06 intercooler system where too much air was left in the tank causing the pump to shut down. Fill level wasn't an issue with the 8L90 and either under or over-filling would cause a host of symptoms (slippage, failure to engage, overheating, etc. but not shudder)..
My 2016 Z06 has been fine thus far running on its original fluid and the second gen torque converter (it has its original torque converter and the changeover occurred before it was built in March 2016). It is never allowed to go into V4 mode which helps to prevent GM's clutch destroying programming.
The only factory fill problems were with the rear differential level (under filled early production) and proper filling of the Z06 intercooler system where too much air was left in the tank causing the pump to shut down. Fill level wasn't an issue with the 8L90 and either under or over-filling would cause a host of symptoms (slippage, failure to engage, overheating, etc. but not shudder)..
My 2016 Z06 has been fine thus far running on its original fluid and the second gen torque converter (it has its original torque converter and the changeover occurred before it was built in March 2016). It is never allowed to go into V4 mode which helps to prevent GM's clutch destroying programming.
#1052
Instructor
It’s amazing the tolerance that loyal customers have for such a failure. I would have thought that A8 sales would have gone to zero by now. Evidently, GM is content to let the problem continue, most likely it’s too costly to fix. One day, internal memos will shine a bright light on this fail. In the meantime, my purchase of any next Corvette is a non-starter.
#1053
Safety Car
It sounds like the problem has been resolved. There seems like nobody is complaining with the 2019 units. I hope this is the case since I am looking at a 2019 and undecided on transmissions. Should I be worried with the A8?
#1055
If it stays gone, I will be happy and will get my fluid changed. But a lot of people had initial success with fluid version 2 only to have the problem return within a year so I think the jury is still out on this one.
#1056
Team Owner
It’s amazing the tolerance that loyal customers have for such a failure. I would have thought that A8 sales would have gone to zero by now. Evidently, GM is content to let the problem continue, most likely it’s too costly to fix. One day, internal memos will shine a bright light on this fail. In the meantime, my purchase of any next Corvette is a non-starter.
#1057
do the 2019+ models already have this new fluid?
I am still debating between manual and auto but prefer an auto. I wish the C7 had the 10 speed from the ZL1 (which is also being considered).
I am still debating between manual and auto but prefer an auto. I wish the C7 had the 10 speed from the ZL1 (which is also being considered).
#1058
Melting Slicks
Now holding onto my 2015 M7 for dear life!
#1059
#1060
Burning Brakes
You can run, but you can't hide
Boxster's require pulling the engine for many problems. Very expensive for maintenance but they do have the 'Porchse' badge.
Good luck and enjoy the Boxster, they are fun to drive.