Thinking of trading my Stingray for a Z06...
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I can't speak for you but I have seen plenty of examples of where that's not true. When I went to Level 2 in the C6 days, we had a chance to switch back and forth between cars. Many students were faster in the Z51 than they were in the Z06. "Too much" power has an intimidating effect on some while more likely to put others off the pavement.
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I traded my 2016 Stingray in for a new 2016 Z06 and I have not regretted it for one minute (there's a story behind the trade that I think I mentioned in another thread, but this response will be long enough as it is). Money was not an issue and for me it was worth the grin it puts on my face every time I get in, start it up and drive it. I've done Ron Fellows twice, once in a Stingray and once in a Z06 just for the experience and it was a blast, but I don't intend to track it regularly. Since I live only 10 minutes from Summit Point Raceway in WV, I'll probably try their Friday At The Track program which is a version of what we did in Nevada, but it is not my intention to do it on a regular basis. While money is not an issue, the idea of messing up that beautiful car just makes me uneasy. I think the Op mentioned bragging rights and the wide body look pretty much did it for me. The 200 extra horsepower was very nice too, but as others have mentioned, it can get you in a lot of trouble very fast if you are not extremely careful or extremely capable. I can do the former, I am nowhere near the latter. If you've got the dough, go for it. I don't think you'll regret it. No cons from my viewpoint. It's everything I expected and more.
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I traded my 2016 Stingray in for a new 2016 Z06 and I have not regretted it for one minute (there's a story behind the trade that I think I mentioned in another thread, but this response will be long enough as it is). Money was not an issue and for me it was worth the grin it puts on my face every time I get in, start it up and drive it. I've done Ron Fellows twice, once in a Stingray and once in a Z06 just for the experience and it was a blast, but I don't intend to track it regularly. Since I live only 10 minutes from Summit Point Raceway in WV, I'll probably try their Friday At The Track program which is a version of what we did in Nevada, but it is not my intention to do it on a regular basis. While money is not an issue, the idea of messing up that beautiful car just makes me uneasy. I think the Op mentioned bragging rights and the wide body look pretty much did it for me. The 200 extra horsepower was very nice too, but as others have mentioned, it can get you in a lot of trouble very fast if you are not extremely careful or extremely capable. I can do the former, I am nowhere near the latter. If you've got the dough, go for it. I don't think you'll regret it. No cons from my viewpoint. It's everything I expected and more.
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Thanks, that's exactly what I was saying, but I'd extend it beyond just novice drivers. Even with experience, a lot of people hit a plateau, and they won't ever be capable of using the extra Z06 power on a track.
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I can't speak for you but I have seen plenty of examples of where that's not true. When I went to Level 2 in the C6 days, we had a chance to switch back and forth between cars. Many students were faster in the Z51 than they were in the Z06. "Too much" power has an intimidating effect on some while more likely to put others off the pavement.
But if you are not intimidated by the Z's power because you trained to handle it, it is the faster car. I realize that's your point
The C7 Z isn't the road racing car that the C5 Z and C6 Z were.
Supercharged cars tend to be prone to overheating in road races.
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I dunno. It's pretty hard not to be faster with 200 more hp, wider wheels and etc. They are typically SLOWER in turns but unless it's a very tight and technical track, it's damn hard to be slower unless you're a real newb.
With that said, despite having better lap times, they're basically drag racing on a road course. For me, it's just not as much fun. I've said it many times, but my Miata (coilovers, rollbar, slicks, pads) is way more fun than my C6 or C7.
Getting back to Z51 vs. Z06, as I said, I went Z51 to Grand Sport- same color scheme and everything- and I can't stop looking at my car. The widebody "hips" are just awesome. It looks like the Z51 too steroids.
With that said, despite having better lap times, they're basically drag racing on a road course. For me, it's just not as much fun. I've said it many times, but my Miata (coilovers, rollbar, slicks, pads) is way more fun than my C6 or C7.
Getting back to Z51 vs. Z06, as I said, I went Z51 to Grand Sport- same color scheme and everything- and I can't stop looking at my car. The widebody "hips" are just awesome. It looks like the Z51 too steroids.
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For me when I bought z06's were hard to find in the summer of 2015 in the color and trim I wanted so I bought the z51 3lt with everything I wanted at 12% off. All it was missing was the supercharger and wide body so I supercharged mine and now faster than a z06. I may do a rear widebody conversion down the road as used parts are becoming readily available on eBay and save a tone of coin. But even if I go widebody upgrade I'll be thousands under the price of a z06. Money saved is money towards a c8 if it is a nice upgrade in a few years.
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that's the problem with dumping a ton of money into a car to make it something it isn't. You'll never get an if that money back and it eve. Makes it more difficult to sell becaise of such a narrow audience.
that's why I passed on a C7 and even the GS and bought the C7Z. Love the wide body but the power although adequate get trounced by so many pedestrian sedans nowadays i couldn't see not putting an SC in a GS. But then that's all it would be?
Z06 makes the most sense if coming from say a C6 or modified C5. No regrets. Buying a C7 or GS? Leaves the possibility for them. You don't want the extra 190hp? Go easier of the pedal. But the low end torque is to die for. It's not just wot. It's all through the power curve.
that's why I passed on a C7 and even the GS and bought the C7Z. Love the wide body but the power although adequate get trounced by so many pedestrian sedans nowadays i couldn't see not putting an SC in a GS. But then that's all it would be?
Z06 makes the most sense if coming from say a C6 or modified C5. No regrets. Buying a C7 or GS? Leaves the possibility for them. You don't want the extra 190hp? Go easier of the pedal. But the low end torque is to die for. It's not just wot. It's all through the power curve.
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I currently have a 15 z51. I plan to make the same switch in 2 years since I trade every 5 years. I will either get a z06 or a c8 ME if they are out at that time. How can a regular C7 on steroids be a bad thing?
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The irony of preferring a substantially less reliable and higher maintenance vehicle for simplicity is awesome.
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I luv all the comments about not needing 650 HP. With that argument, nobody needs a 460 HP Stingray either and we should all be driving beige eco-friendly Honda golf carts.
If the Z06 is something you want and you can manage the upgrade financially, do it. There are some great deals for 2017s right now and will only get better throughout the summer in order for dealers to make room for the 2018 models once production starts up again.
If the Z06 is something you want and you can manage the upgrade financially, do it. There are some great deals for 2017s right now and will only get better throughout the summer in order for dealers to make room for the 2018 models once production starts up again.
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For those who are saying to wait for the ZR-1 what do you think the cost differential will be between it and a Z06?
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I'm expecting a $25K-$30K price differential. That all depends on whether the ZR1 will offer three similar trim levels or whether there will be additional track aero packages, etc. However I think $125K starting price is a safe target. Now whether they will be able to get that price based on current market demands is another story. Either way, I think the ZR1 will put even more downward price pressure on the Z06.
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I luv all the comments about not needing 650 HP. With that argument, nobody needs a 460 HP Stingray either and we should all be driving beige eco-friendly Honda golf carts.
If the Z06 is something you want and you can manage the upgrade financially, do it. There are some great deals for 2017s right now and will only get better throughout the summer in order for dealers to make room for the 2018 models once production starts up again.
If the Z06 is something you want and you can manage the upgrade financially, do it. There are some great deals for 2017s right now and will only get better throughout the summer in order for dealers to make room for the 2018 models once production starts up again.
I have 460 and I want 650.....and I need it, or otherwise I'll I won't be satisfied. Just the idea of having that under my hood is the greatest satisfaction in life I could have....and I'm going to have it soon! I also need the lower rpm torque. I suppose I don't need that either? I feel grumpy today.
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that's the problem with dumping a ton of money into a car to make it something it isn't. You'll never get an if that money back and it eve. Makes it more difficult to sell becaise of such a narrow audience.
that's why I passed on a C7 and even the GS and bought the C7Z. Love the wide body but the power although adequate get trounced by so many pedestrian sedans nowadays i couldn't see not putting an SC in a GS. But then that's all it would be?
Z06 makes the most sense if coming from say a C6 or modified C5. No regrets. Buying a C7 or GS? Leaves the possibility for them. You don't want the extra 190hp? Go easier of the pedal. But the low end torque is to die for. It's not just wot. It's all through the power curve.
that's why I passed on a C7 and even the GS and bought the C7Z. Love the wide body but the power although adequate get trounced by so many pedestrian sedans nowadays i couldn't see not putting an SC in a GS. But then that's all it would be?
Z06 makes the most sense if coming from say a C6 or modified C5. No regrets. Buying a C7 or GS? Leaves the possibility for them. You don't want the extra 190hp? Go easier of the pedal. But the low end torque is to die for. It's not just wot. It's all through the power curve.
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I went with a 1lt Grand sport. It was stickered at $70,500 and I got it for $60k out the door. I felt it was a good deal. Sometimes I wish I went with the z06 but only for a couple minutes. The 460hp is still quite fast and can get you into alot of trouble. I actually think the GS looks better too with the wheels and side fenders. I am very happy with my purchase!
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I'm expecting a $25K-$30K price differential. That all depends on whether the ZR1 will offer three similar trim levels or whether there will be additional track aero packages, etc. However I think $125K starting price is a safe target. Now whether they will be able to get that price based on current market demands is another story. Either way, I think the ZR1 will put even more downward price pressure on the Z06.