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Old 06-21-2017, 07:09 PM
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Default Our C7'S have 460HP and 650HP when do you think HP will start to decrease?

Face it we are lucky that our C7'S have 460HP and 650HP and ZR1 rumored to have 700-800HP but when do you think the HP will start to go backwards say back to C5 and C6 standards of 300HP -350HP or hopefully not to mid 1975-77' 175HP Vettes. What I am really asking do you guys think that our HP will keep growing in our Corvettes or get the most HP you can get in the next few years or so because HP might go DOWNWARDS?

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The C9 which will begin production in 2029 is rumored to have less power than the outgoing model.
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Yep; rumor has it that an EcoBoost V6 Corvette will be developed with the help of Ford engineers.

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I doubt hp will decrease. To meet cafe standards (who knows how those may change if states override federal standards) power may simply increase more slowly. Porsche seems to be doing well with that strategy; granted it helps to have more weight over the rear.
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What is more important than growing or shrinking HP numbers is that performance doesn't go backwards. A 300 HP engine in a 2,100 lb car would be fun.
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You won't see the HP go down but I think you'll see a twin turbo V6 soon. Some of these motors are putting out 5-600 hp. The new Alfa Romeo has a TT 6 from Ferrari and I'd love to see something like that in a Vette. It sounds incredible. Lighter and quicker.
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Horsepower went down in the 70s because of emissions requirements.

Emissions won't reduce HP in the future, it will eradicate it; we will all be driving golf carts.
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Performance will only improve with electric motors powering individual wheels. Look at the numbers the Tesla puts up in ludicrous mode. Now imagine that on a lighter sports car.

At some point in the near future we will look back on the C7 and think it is slow. Technology and performance marches on.
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What is more important than growing or shrinking HP numbers is that performance doesn't go backwards. A 300 HP engine in a 2,100 lb car would be fun.
Cars won't be getting any lighter until autonomous vehicles arrive and are proven, and that is only because at that point the NHSTA will remove all of the crash testing and things like airbags, crumple zones, etc. that make cars 40% heavier then they need to be.
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Performance will only improve with electric motors powering individual wheels. Look at the numbers the Tesla puts up in ludicrous mode. Now imagine that on a lighter sports car.
So long as you only like to drive your Tesla fast for 1 mile every 3 hours, that is great - and people here bitch that the Z06 in 90+ degree temperatures reduces power after 15 miles.

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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
Face it we are lucky that our C7'S have 460HP and 650HP and ZR1 rumored to have 700-800HP but when do you think the HP will start to go backwards say back to C5 and C6 standards of 300HP -350HP or hopefully not to mid 1975-77' 175HP Vettes. What I am really asking do you guys think that our HP will keep growing in our Corvettes or get the most HP you can get in the next few years or so because HP might go DOWNWARDS?
I'm going with the first year Mid-Engine!
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
Cars won't be getting any lighter until autonomous vehicles arrive and are proven, and that is only because at that point the NHSTA will remove all of the crash testing and things like airbags, crumple zones, etc. that make cars 40% heavier then they need to be.

So long as you only like to drive your Tesla fast for 1 mile every 3 hours, that is great - and people here bitch that the Z06 in 90+ degree temperatures reduces power after 15 miles.
The technology is in it's infancy stage. As more and more companies switch over to electric (including super cars) the technology will evolve and improve.
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Originally Posted by Always Red Dave
Face it we are lucky that our C7'S have 460HP and 650HP and ZR1 rumored to have 700-800HP but when do you think the HP will start to go backwards say back to C5 and C6 standards of 300HP -350HP or hopefully not to mid 1975-77' 175HP Vettes. What I am really asking do you guys think that our HP will keep growing in our Corvettes or get the most HP you can get in the next few years or so because HP might go DOWNWARDS?
Dave, HP wars will continue for a bit more, bringing on lighter, smaller cubic inches, turbo's, etc. That said, put some miles on that Z, perhaps venture outside city limits, even though you will never exercise the full capabilities of a SC 650hp beast.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
Horsepower went down in the 70s because of emissions requirements.

Emissions won't reduce HP in the future, it will eradicate it; we will all be driving golf carts.

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If you see what other brands are doing GM is stuck in the high HP mode where everyone else is developing hybrids. What is the Corvette team doing to play catch up since everything is top secret.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
Horsepower went down in the 70s because of emissions requirements.

Emissions won't reduce HP in the future, it will eradicate it; we will all be driving golf carts.
A bit of hyperbole on your part.

Engineers in the 60s through the 80s could only dream of building a high horsepower car that can get 20-30 MPG HWY. Today's Corvettes deliver that kind of return.

I think high horsepower cars will continue to be available in the future. If anything, Tesla is proving an electric car doesn't have to look and perform like a golf cart.



Try diunitial thinking (and/both) as opposed to dichotomous thinking (either/or).

The rise and evolution of electric cars, hybrids, and alternative energies doesn't mean these things will supplant cars like the Stingray or get rid of internal combustion engines overnight or even over the next decade.

Progress is not the enemy of the past or the present.

As Edmund Burke once opined, "a society without the means to change is without the means of its preservation".

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the c9 which will begin production in 2029 is rumored to have less power than the outgoing model.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
Horsepower went down in the 70s because of emissions requirements.

Emissions won't reduce HP in the future, it will eradicate it; we will all be driving golf carts.
The next Greeenie Libiturd Commie Prez will put Elon Musk back on the Gooberment Dole.

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GM may keep pumping out V8's but many European countries are targeting the elimination of combustible engines by 2025-2030's. Germany being one of them and this alone will push GM, Ford, etc towards electric vehicles. China is one of the most important car markets right now (growth) and they are the #1 buyer of EV's now.

The market will push changes no matter if you like it or not. I suspect the US will be a later adopter of banning combustion engines, but this will likely happen in my lifetime and I am 46.
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Originally Posted by thill444
GM may keep pumping out V8's but many European countries are targeting the elimination of combustible engines by 2025-2030's. Germany being one of them and this alone will push GM, Ford, etc towards electric vehicles. China is one of the most important car markets right now (growth) and they are the #1 buyer of EV's now.

The market will push changes no matter if you like it or not. I suspect the US will be a later adopter of banning combustion engines, but this will likely happen in my lifetime and I am 46.
I think "combustible engines" should be banned immediately, but I hope the internal combustion engine sticks around for awhile.

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