Momentary overheat
#1
Drifting
Thread Starter
Momentary overheat
2015 Z51 M7. 27,000 miles
Sunny day. Mid 70s. I wasn't driving hard. I was on a phone call and needed to pull over and stop to write some info down. Sat in a shaded area for maybe 5 minutes at idle. Noticed the AC stopped blowing cold air. Then I noticed the engine temp (permanent needle gauge) was at 260. My car NEVER runs hot. Usually steady at 200. Maybe 210 while in stop n go in mid summer in epic traffic in Atlanta.
When I started driving again, engine temp creeped back down and the AC resumed normal operation.
So, last two days I've been watching the engine temp. Now it's been hovering at 205-210. I always watched it before and I KNOW it's always been steady at 200 prior to the temp spike.
Any ideas?
I'll probably take it by Chevy soon when I can find time.
Sunny day. Mid 70s. I wasn't driving hard. I was on a phone call and needed to pull over and stop to write some info down. Sat in a shaded area for maybe 5 minutes at idle. Noticed the AC stopped blowing cold air. Then I noticed the engine temp (permanent needle gauge) was at 260. My car NEVER runs hot. Usually steady at 200. Maybe 210 while in stop n go in mid summer in epic traffic in Atlanta.
When I started driving again, engine temp creeped back down and the AC resumed normal operation.
So, last two days I've been watching the engine temp. Now it's been hovering at 205-210. I always watched it before and I KNOW it's always been steady at 200 prior to the temp spike.
Any ideas?
I'll probably take it by Chevy soon when I can find time.
#2
Drifting
Thermostat needs to be replaced.
#3
My previously owned 15 Z51 had a similar issue. Apparently, my radiator cap wasn't fully tightened and half a gallon of coolant had escaped according to the dealership.
#5
Drifting
Thread Starter
Update:
just had had her at the dealer. Could not duplicate.
Of course
I explained to a couple techs that this car, since I've owned it, has had a rock steady engine temp of 200. Maybe 205-210 after a hard acceleration tops. But lately the temp range has been "sloppy".
Sooooo, this other tech would like to have it for longer when it's convenient for me. The next few weeks suck for timing plus I have a road trip from Atlanta to Daytona in 4 weeks.
just had had her at the dealer. Could not duplicate.
Of course
I explained to a couple techs that this car, since I've owned it, has had a rock steady engine temp of 200. Maybe 205-210 after a hard acceleration tops. But lately the temp range has been "sloppy".
Sooooo, this other tech would like to have it for longer when it's convenient for me. The next few weeks suck for timing plus I have a road trip from Atlanta to Daytona in 4 weeks.
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I had what sounds like an identical issue once and only once with my '01 C5... though, I never monitored the temps that closely, before or after. So, I cannot speak to that aspect.
However, after I thought about the issue at the time, I was not sure that the fans had turned on when it overheated. As I say, this has never happened again in the intervening 7 or 8 years. I still have and drive the car semi-regularly without further incident.
However, after I thought about the issue at the time, I was not sure that the fans had turned on when it overheated. As I say, this has never happened again in the intervening 7 or 8 years. I still have and drive the car semi-regularly without further incident.
#9
Melting Slicks
Update:
just had had her at the dealer. Could not duplicate.
Of course
I explained to a couple techs that this car, since I've owned it, has had a rock steady engine temp of 200. Maybe 205-210 after a hard acceleration tops. But lately the temp range has been "sloppy".
Sooooo, this other tech would like to have it for longer when it's convenient for me. The next few weeks suck for timing plus I have a road trip from Atlanta to Daytona in 4 weeks.
just had had her at the dealer. Could not duplicate.
Of course
I explained to a couple techs that this car, since I've owned it, has had a rock steady engine temp of 200. Maybe 205-210 after a hard acceleration tops. But lately the temp range has been "sloppy".
Sooooo, this other tech would like to have it for longer when it's convenient for me. The next few weeks suck for timing plus I have a road trip from Atlanta to Daytona in 4 weeks.
#10
Drifting
Thread Starter
Driving home tonight. 75 degrees. She went to just a needle width below 255.
Sigh
next drive it was normal.
i don't think the fan was running
Sigh
next drive it was normal.
i don't think the fan was running
#11
When the temperature goes that high the fan should be screaming at near maximum speed and easily audible with the car at idle.
#12
Drifting
Thread Starter
I was on the interstate for a little...20 minutes. Temp rose quick from engine start to getting on the interstate to about 215. Quicker than I recall on previous normal days.
While at speed, temp was 215ish.
Then after I exited the freeway I was in some minor stop and go. Nothing crazy. Thats when it began to creep up eventually hitting 255. Cant say for sure if the fan was on then. The A/C was on and actually NEVER kicked off while the temp hovered in the 250s.
Next drive (about an hour later), I definitely heard the fan and the temp stayed around 215.
Dealer visit tomorrow.
While at speed, temp was 215ish.
Then after I exited the freeway I was in some minor stop and go. Nothing crazy. Thats when it began to creep up eventually hitting 255. Cant say for sure if the fan was on then. The A/C was on and actually NEVER kicked off while the temp hovered in the 250s.
Next drive (about an hour later), I definitely heard the fan and the temp stayed around 215.
Dealer visit tomorrow.
#13
Racer
I was on the interstate for a little...20 minutes. Temp rose quick from engine start to getting on the interstate to about 215. Quicker than I recall on previous normal days.
While at speed, temp was 215ish.
Then after I exited the freeway I was in some minor stop and go. Nothing crazy. Thats when it began to creep up eventually hitting 255. Cant say for sure if the fan was on then. The A/C was on and actually NEVER kicked off while the temp hovered in the 250s.
Next drive (about an hour later), I definitely heard the fan and the temp stayed around 215.
Dealer visit tomorrow.
While at speed, temp was 215ish.
Then after I exited the freeway I was in some minor stop and go. Nothing crazy. Thats when it began to creep up eventually hitting 255. Cant say for sure if the fan was on then. The A/C was on and actually NEVER kicked off while the temp hovered in the 250s.
Next drive (about an hour later), I definitely heard the fan and the temp stayed around 215.
Dealer visit tomorrow.
#15
Drifting
Thread Starter
i know all of you are the edge of your seats about this. LOL
They're hooking up a bunch of sensors to her then going for a drive. Possibly a rogue indication. No codes came up from interrogation.
Who knows...
#16
With the driving you were doing coupled with ambient temperature this time of year you were probably just on the cusp of a "limp" overheat and continued low speed driving and extensive idling would have caused the overheat condition. The sensors are more reliable than relays, fan motors, thermostats, etc. so generally an overheat indication really is an overheat condition.
#17
Overheating
Ask the dealer to check the A/C pressures with their scan tool and compare them to expected values. A/C pressures are one of the triggers that starts the fan. If your A/C was not blowing cold when the overheat happened, it might be related to the A/C system.
#18
Drifting
OP: I hope they find it for you. I used to live in ATL, nothing worse than over-heat in ATL traffic on I-75 or I-285 in the middle of 6 lane traffic, no place to go, and for sure nobody will let you over!!
I kind of agree with several posts above, it sounds like your fan is not coming on and it's intermittent.
Best of luck and I hope they find it.
I kind of agree with several posts above, it sounds like your fan is not coming on and it's intermittent.
Best of luck and I hope they find it.
#19
Instructor
As I am still studying these (as opposed to having one) I'm curious to know if it's possible on the initial overheat (260° ) some coolant escaped.
I ask as it makes me suspect there could be a small amount of "air" in the system.
I've never had an air lock in a cooling system of any GM product I've used, ever, but is that a possibility?
I know an indication problem is far more likely, but, if it turns out to be not an indication problem, could they try pulling a vacuum on the cooling system and see what the coolant level does when it is released?
For clarity, I do mean a hard vacuum like I could do with a Mity-Vac, I'm sure they have something fancier.
I ask as it makes me suspect there could be a small amount of "air" in the system.
I've never had an air lock in a cooling system of any GM product I've used, ever, but is that a possibility?
I know an indication problem is far more likely, but, if it turns out to be not an indication problem, could they try pulling a vacuum on the cooling system and see what the coolant level does when it is released?
For clarity, I do mean a hard vacuum like I could do with a Mity-Vac, I'm sure they have something fancier.
Last edited by Nexxussian; 11-08-2017 at 03:53 PM.