C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Ambient temp and tire pressure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-08-2017, 11:32 PM
  #1  
ZoomOn43
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
ZoomOn43's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2005
Posts: 79
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
St. Jude Donor '17

Default Ambient temp and tire pressure

Ok so question... you're to check and fill the tires at "while cold", I understand that. What I am trying to figure out is how do you compensate for ambient air temperature differences. If I check in the summer in the AM and say it is 75 deg out and set at 30psi. That would be different if it was 45 deg out and I set them to 30 psi right? Or does it matter as long as the tires are cold.
Old 10-08-2017, 11:43 PM
  #2  
stevebz06
Melting Slicks
 
stevebz06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,075
Received 304 Likes on 205 Posts

Default

Just set the tire pressure and don't worry about the ambient temperature. Maybe an argument can be made for changing it depending on conditions, but I've never heard anybody make that claim. And the same for atmospheric pressure. The ambient pressure changes all the time also.
Old 10-08-2017, 11:46 PM
  #3  
owc6
Team Owner
 
owc6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 24,550
Received 4,186 Likes on 2,679 Posts

Default

The party line is whatever the label inside the driver's door says as cold psi (for the vast majority of us that is 30 psi). That means before you go anywhere in the morning regardless of ambient temp: set them to that number. That's good advice which will yield good results.

In real life, as you have more miles on the car, you can use that as a gauge for what you really like them to be. I like them to be a little "overinflated", which means 33# to start. For me, that gives the handling I prefer, and perfectly even wear. I've never heard of anyone preferring "under inflating."
The following users liked this post:
Jims Z06 (02-11-2024)
Old 10-08-2017, 11:57 PM
  #4  
TEXHAWK0
Le Mans Master
 
TEXHAWK0's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: Longview Texas
Posts: 8,847
Received 787 Likes on 539 Posts

Default

No need to adjust them daily, but I do adjust my pressures for seasonal temperature changes.
As summer ends and the weather cools, if I see pressures starting to be 2 or 3 psi less than I normally run, I will adjust them back to the 30 psi target.
Better to be a little high, than consistently running lower pressure.

I have noticed that the front tires seem to run a pound or so higher due to engine temp, more braking, etc. so I have actually set the fronts to be a pound or two lower so when they come up to operating temperature, the fronts and rears are the same.

Last edited by TEXHAWK0; 10-08-2017 at 11:59 PM.
Old 10-09-2017, 12:00 AM
  #5  
Foosh
Team Owner
 
Foosh's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Posts: 25,434
Received 16,668 Likes on 8,311 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ZoomOn43
Ok so question... you're to check and fill the tires at "while cold", I understand that. What I am trying to figure out is how do you compensate for ambient air temperature differences. If I check in the summer in the AM and say it is 75 deg out and set at 30psi. That would be different if it was 45 deg out and I set them to 30 psi right? Or does it matter as long as the tires are cold.
The recommended inflation pressures are the same whether it's 90º or 20º. If you inflate to 30 psi in the summer, you'll find the pressures will drop usually about 10% or more once it gets cold. You'll need to add air to stay at 30 psi, and that's how you compensate for ambient temp.
Old 10-09-2017, 04:27 AM
  #6  
DogTag-C7R
Racer
 
DogTag-C7R's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2015
Location: Allen Tx
Posts: 434
Received 120 Likes on 74 Posts
Default

For daily driving I ALWAYS start at 32. Obviously not a good number at the track.
Old 10-09-2017, 05:53 AM
  #7  
Patman
Race Director
 
Patman's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2001
Location: Guelph, Ontario
Posts: 15,070
Received 1,920 Likes on 1,192 Posts

Default

I like to check the tire pressures in all of my cars about once a month so as the weather cools off, I do need to add air in order to keep it at the correct pressure. Once it gets into the late fall I usually add an extra couple of psi as well since I know it'll get much colder in the winter and I want to make sure they aren't under inflated. (I agree with Texhawk, I'd rather be slightly high than too low)
Old 10-09-2017, 07:06 AM
  #8  
Vetteman Jack
Administrator

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
Posts: 343,002
Received 19,301 Likes on 13,974 Posts
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19-
'20-'21-'22-'23-'24
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran


Default

Originally Posted by stevebz06
Just set the tire pressure and don't worry about the ambient temperature. Maybe an argument can be made for changing it depending on conditions, but I've never heard anybody make that claim.
Just get the tires to 30 psi cold and you’ll be OK.
Old 10-09-2017, 07:08 AM
  #9  
JerryU
E-Ray, 3LZ, ZER, LIFT
Support Corvetteforum!
 
JerryU's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: NE South Carolina
Posts: 29,498
Received 9,625 Likes on 6,629 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ZoomOn43
Ok so question... you're to check and fill the tires at "while cold", I understand that. What I am trying to figure out is how do you compensate for ambient air temperature differences. If I check in the summer in the AM and say it is 75 deg out and set at 30psi. That would be different if it was 45 deg out and I set them to 30 psi right? Or does it matter as long as the tires are cold.
Hmm, lots of comments but no direct answer! For every 10 degree F change the tire pressure changes ~1 psi!

It does take a while for the tire (air) to cool, which is why it's recommended to check first thing in the morning before driving. Remember the tires heat from internal and road friction when driving and those aluminum wheels are close to very hot brakes!

Last edited by JerryU; 10-09-2017 at 07:16 AM.
The following users liked this post:
DoubleG (02-12-2024)
Old 10-09-2017, 07:15 AM
  #10  
AORoads
Team Owner
 
AORoads's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2005
Location: Northern, VA
Posts: 46,106
Received 2,481 Likes on 1,944 Posts
St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"

Default

You're right, Zoom, there is a difference in setting it at 45 or 75. But 30 is 30 at both temps, and that's what is listed as the pressure to use. As said above by others, if you set the pressure at 30 in 75 degree weather and drove the car somewhere and the ambient was 45, then a few of the posts above like Jerry's are correct, too: you would "lose" approx 1 lb. of pressure for each 10 degree drop in ambient. Not the tire's fault. So, at 45 ambient, your tire pressure would be about 27 cold (if you waited to check it when cold). That is also why several posts like Tex above say, when seasons change you need to adjust tire pressure accordingly (winter=increase; summer=decrease. both using a gauge, not a guess-timate).
Old 10-09-2017, 07:26 AM
  #11  
shakinrock
Pro
 
shakinrock's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Big Canoe Georgia
Posts: 634
Received 127 Likes on 84 Posts

Default

The only add I have is even if you have not driven your car for hours, make sure the tires are not in direct sunlight. The set to whatever.
Old 10-09-2017, 09:04 AM
  #12  
rmorin1249
Le Mans Master

 
rmorin1249's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2012
Location: Hagerstown MD
Posts: 6,876
Received 1,738 Likes on 1,174 Posts
St. Jude Donor '15-'16,'18

Default

Still curious why GM raised the recommended pressures in 2016 for the base cars to 35 psi(cold). Same tires as previous years. Some have said it was to try and increase mileage. What say you? I run 32 in mine.
Old 10-09-2017, 09:19 AM
  #13  
CP
Team Owner
 
CP's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Location: Spring Texas
Posts: 23,171
Received 1,125 Likes on 562 Posts

Default

Blame this guy: Gay-Lussac
Old 10-09-2017, 09:24 AM
  #14  
Harry2
Melting Slicks
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Harry2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,297
Received 403 Likes on 222 Posts

Default

I had the same problem yesterday, my Minneapolis temp was down to the mid fifties in the morning, I checked my OnStar app and found my vette tire pressures were down to 28 PSI which I confirmed with my digital pressure gauge. I took my Specialized bike pump out and it took 30 pumps to fill each wide GS tire back up to 30 PSI, after being driven they went back up to 33 PSI. In November when my vette goes into hibernation, I fill the pressure up to 35 PSI to cover the winter period when my attached garage will get down to about 30 degrees.
Old 10-09-2017, 10:25 AM
  #15  
Fireeagle
Instructor
 
Fireeagle's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2017
Posts: 192
Received 25 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Being from the Northeast, ambient temps do impact tire pressure. In the cold weather, you will lose 3 to 5 lbs, so i look for a cold morning in fall to bump them back up to 30 PSI. Get a good gauge also. I've found so many of the non-digital gauges to be off but my digitals will match the tire pressure reading inside the vette.
Old 10-09-2017, 10:39 AM
  #16  
rodney123456
Racer
 
rodney123456's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Location: port neches texas
Posts: 250
Received 16 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

i have found i use the my chev app on phone first time and i update it the first time too i check the tire pressure it is up to 37 cold then when i update the pressure again in the app it is down to 35 on all tires anybody else having this
Old 10-09-2017, 11:33 AM
  #17  
Custom Corvette Accessories
Premium Supporting Vendor
 
Custom Corvette Accessories's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2016
Location: Manassas VA
Posts: 3,846
Received 432 Likes on 311 Posts
Default

Inflate in the Winter
Deflate in the Summer

Regards
Chip
The following 2 users liked this post by Custom Corvette Accessories:
BOO STA (02-11-2024), Walt White Coupe (10-09-2017)

Get notified of new replies

To Ambient temp and tire pressure

Old 10-09-2017, 11:44 AM
  #18  
Widgeon5
Pro
 
Widgeon5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Location: Indiana
Posts: 537
Received 158 Likes on 95 Posts
Default

And the same for atmospheric pressure. The ambient pressure changes all the time also.[/QUOTE]

Atmospheric pressure changes are all but negligible as they affect tire pressure; 1/4 psi most of the time and occasionally up to 1/2 psi.

The math: Sea level pressure is about 14.7 psi or 30.00 inches of mercury. Barometric pressure is seldom outside the range of 29.60 to 30.60 unless its a hurricane situation. 1.00 inch of mercury is about 1/2 psi.

Last edited by Widgeon5; 10-09-2017 at 11:47 AM.
Old 10-09-2017, 12:08 PM
  #19  
davepl
Le Mans Master
 
davepl's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2000
Location: Redmond WA
Posts: 8,727
Received 1,500 Likes on 987 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by CP
Blame this guy: Gay-Lussac
He's the biggest proponent of filling your tires with nitrogen I take it?
Old 10-09-2017, 12:15 PM
  #20  
Walt White Coupe
Race Director
 
Walt White Coupe's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2005
Location: Phila Suburbs 2023 C8 & 2013 650ix
Posts: 10,427
Received 2,225 Likes on 1,141 Posts

Default

Gay-Lussac's Law is an ideal gas law where at constant volume, the pressure of an ideal gas is directly proportional to its absolute temperature. In other words, Gay-Lussac's Law states that the pressure of a fixed amount of gas at fixed volume is directly proportional to its temperature in kelvins.
The following users liked this post:
CP (10-13-2017)


Quick Reply: Ambient temp and tire pressure



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:22 PM.