2016 Wheel alignment?
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Or perhaps an owner w/ a severe case of OCD and a lead foot. However, in all seriousness, frequent driving on poor pavement conditions can easily trash an alignment in a short period of time. All it takes is one good pothole strike.
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Yes, even occasional track use would explain the number of fluid flushes, alignments, perhaps even tire replacements.
That's not necessarily a reason to run away. It actually suggests the car was very well taken care of.
That's not necessarily a reason to run away. It actually suggests the car was very well taken care of.
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Foosh is probably right. Looks like, a lot of track time but with appropriate maintenance.
Run hard but never put away wet. (abused)
You're concerns are well founded.
Worth a look. If your really interested, have a mechanic check it out carefully.
Run hard but never put away wet. (abused)
You're concerns are well founded.
Worth a look. If your really interested, have a mechanic check it out carefully.
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Owner was taking care of the car and had dealer handle the track prep. Does car have Z07 option? Depending on usage Cup2 tires will last about 4 to 5 days or track usage.
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That would make a Spring Mt. car look like a spring chicken. I'd actually be more inclined to go for a well-maintained car like that, with demonstrated reliability, over a GQ, which spent it's life with fluids collecting moisture, seals and the like drying up, and otherwise rotting in the garage.
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I wouldn't call it a "track car." 22 hours isn't much track time, but it was clearly prepared before and after each session. It also sounds like it has a clean mechanical history free of warranty repairs. That's always a very good indicator it will stay reliable for the foreseeable future.
If you're really interested in it, I would have it inspected at a GM dealer, have them run a GMVIS report, which is much more detailed than CARFAX. Also have the ECM scanned to make sure it hasn't been tuned. That would block your power train warranty if you ever had an engine or transmission issue.
If you're really interested in it, I would have it inspected at a GM dealer, have them run a GMVIS report, which is much more detailed than CARFAX. Also have the ECM scanned to make sure it hasn't been tuned. That would block your power train warranty if you ever had an engine or transmission issue.
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I wouldn't call it a "track car." 22 hours isn't much track time, but it was clearly prepared before and after each session. It also sounds like it has a clean mechanical history free of warranty repairs. That's always a very good indicator it will stay reliable for the foreseeable future.
If you're really interested in it, I would have it inspected at a GM dealer, have them run a GMVIS report, which is much more detailed than CARFAX. Also have the ECM scanned to make sure it hasn't been tuned. That would block your power train warranty if you ever had an engine or transmission issue.
If you're really interested in it, I would have it inspected at a GM dealer, have them run a GMVIS report, which is much more detailed than CARFAX. Also have the ECM scanned to make sure it hasn't been tuned. That would block your power train warranty if you ever had an engine or transmission issue.
FWIW, those Spring Mtn cars are maintained 110%. Detail Guys are cleaning and polishing between sessions. They all have carbon ceramics. Amazing.
Hell, I'd buy one.
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I'm not recommending this website but here's what's involved
Basically having a mechanic inspect the car
https://www.yourmechanic.com/service...car-inspection
I've heard soo many stories where someone bought a used car and later noticed the car was in a wreck or wasn't in as good condition as they thought.
Basically having a mechanic inspect the car
https://www.yourmechanic.com/service...car-inspection
I've heard soo many stories where someone bought a used car and later noticed the car was in a wreck or wasn't in as good condition as they thought.
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I went by the number of times it was in for service, assumed at least one two day track event at each service (they were ~ 1 month apart in some cases). Also if the car had Cup2 tires I applied my experience with wearing them out on the track. 15 is ~ the number of days and most people get 4 20 minute sessions per day for a total of about an hour and a half (rounded up) track time per day. That usually averages out to about 80 or 90 track miles per day. Although, if you run with certain groups you can get closer to 150 to 200 miles per day if you are young enough and can take the abuse. If I do that many on the first day I am usually whipped on the second day and don't drive as much.
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This is a good thread. I didn't know that basic repair visits were recorded in CARFAX or about the GMVIS report.
FWIW, those Spring Mtn cars are maintained 110%. Detail Guys are cleaning and polishing between sessions. They all have carbon ceramics. Amazing.
Hell, I'd buy one.
FWIW, those Spring Mtn cars are maintained 110%. Detail Guys are cleaning and polishing between sessions. They all have carbon ceramics. Amazing.
Hell, I'd buy one.
They are resold at an independent SoCal dealership, which does disclose the warranty blockages, and that they were former high-performance, driving school cars.
The car the OP is talking about should not have any warranty blockages because it has documented track prep per GM guidance, but that's also why it should be inspected for mods and the GMVIS report run.
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