Big brother really is watching!
#21
Semi-related
Something I heard about that I am more concerned with.
Municipalities with toll roads that accept EZ pass or EZ tags are measuring time between toll booths and determining if cars have been speeding based on how early they reach the next booth.
Municipalities with toll roads that accept EZ pass or EZ tags are measuring time between toll booths and determining if cars have been speeding based on how early they reach the next booth.
#22
Melting Slicks
The US is just catching up on the automated speeding stuff. I know in the UK they do that in areas with cameras dedicated just for checking speed. They have signs advising you of those areas. I expect to see more automated speed reviews in the US as time goes by.
#23
Absolutely agree that people should be held accountable for their actions, especially if a serious injury or fatality is involved. What I'm saying is that law enforcement should not be given carte blanche access to anyones data. Or any search for that matter. We're protected from unlawful search by the 4th amendment. So, the officers at the scene use all the tools at their disposal. For decades prior to OBD they would analyze the scene and use eyewitness accounts to determine what happened. What happens when they scan your OBD data and don't find data relevant to the accident but notice something that incriminates you for something else?
With regard to your observations about the use of "old school" methods, yes a lot of people got away with murder.
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This is very, very, very old myth that in various forms has been around for decades. It's baloney. It started way before EZ pass was invented.
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#25
Safety Car
Its all over
You are being watched and recorded just make one off the wall remark on here or facebook and you just made the A list ( other wise the hit list)It happened to I during the Obama regime and i did it to test the waters! As far as cell phone you gave up your rights when you purchased one.Welcome to the New World!
#28
Melting Slicks
Yea, old thread.
But in short, if you want it off, sell your Corvette and any other modern vehicle you have. Essentially you can't turn it off....
Do some online research on EDR's, they are not readily accessible and only used in extreme situations where normal traffic investigation techniques are not useful or in extreme traffic collisions. Like I'm guessing the accident the other day with those 7 motorcyclists are killed, if there's an EDR on that truck I'm guessing they are looking at it.....
But in short, if you want it off, sell your Corvette and any other modern vehicle you have. Essentially you can't turn it off....
Do some online research on EDR's, they are not readily accessible and only used in extreme situations where normal traffic investigation techniques are not useful or in extreme traffic collisions. Like I'm guessing the accident the other day with those 7 motorcyclists are killed, if there's an EDR on that truck I'm guessing they are looking at it.....
#29
Le Mans Master
Don't cheap out. Get the industrial grade stuff.
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#30
Le Mans Master
This is true. It has been the case for at least 30 years now, as we discussed the algorithms in use back when I was a freshman in college (shortly after dinosaurs ruled the earth).
It doesn't even require EZ pass, as a relatively simple formula can be used anytime there is a timestamp on both ends of a fixed-distance corridor.
If memory serves, the example we studied way back then was a tollway in PA that used it to determine the max speed you must have achieved at some point to get from the previous toll to the current one. if maxspeed > speedlimit = ticket.
EZpass just automates the whole process and makes the ticket generation easy since it does the calc, and already has all your info needed (via transponder code and license plate scan) to issue the ticket, just like speed cameras.
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#31
Le Mans Master
This is true. It has been the case for at least 30 years now, as we discussed the algorithms in use back when I was a freshman in college (shortly after dinosaurs ruled the earth). It doesn't even take EZ pass, as a relatively simple formula can be used anytime there is a timestamp on both ends of a fixed-distance corridor.
#32
Advanced
Funny, my take, is I disagree with the disagree.
I consider driving an right. My use of any "public good", funded by my tax dollars, is my right. We pay for it, it ours, not the governments. Loss of the use comes from agreed upon legal violation (laws)
Government cannot tax me, then rule if I am "privileged" or entitled, to use the goods they mandated I pay for, or the goods I voted to be taxed for.
..just my $.02
Cheers!
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You don't because it's not as simple as simply pulling a plug. The recorder is integrated in the Inflatable Restraint system's SDM (Sensing and Diagnostic Module). It's not as easy as disabling the airbag system on newer cars because it's integrated in the high speed communication loop with many other modules (PCM, BCM, EBCM, SDM, RCDLR, IPC, Chassis Control Module etc).
#35
Burning Brakes
In New York State...IF you're an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT...you now have the right to a Drivers License! Now you know ...just another reason why Cuomo has to go!...before the rest of the citizens in NY State do
#36
Race Director
On star now wifi and most definitely the computer in the car. No way around it... none...
Buy a C5. Or redo your c7b into a track car. Otherwise they have it all. Even what time you open close lock unlock the doors friend
your brain would explode if you really knew lol
Buy a C5. Or redo your c7b into a track car. Otherwise they have it all. Even what time you open close lock unlock the doors friend
your brain would explode if you really knew lol
#37
Team Owner
Holy crap another big to do debate about nothing.
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#39
Instructor
We are photographed an average of 37 times a day, so I’m starting to smile more!
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