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Old 03-21-2018, 12:25 PM   #21  
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Nav in these cars is crap. I use my iPhone. I'm not paying GM to update crap.
Every user experience is different, and I'm posting so readers of this thread are not turned off by such a negative and yet uninformative post.

FWIW, in my case, the Nav in my 2016 is surprisingly accurate. For instance, I taken 2 trips to satellite offices my company owns in Illinois, and Minneapolis MN. Previously, in a rental car w/o Nav, during a Minneapolis trip, I used Google Maps, which made several errors, like insisting I make a 180 turn and proceed along what I knew was the wrong direction, and another time, Google thought I was on another road than what I was traveling.

Last year, I took my 2016 Corvette on a longer trip, to visit the same offices in IL, MN, and proceeding on a road trop to ND, SD, NB back to MO. At NO TIME was the Nav wrong, and my confidence level with the Vette nav is very high after the trip.

As noted elsewhere, Waze is battery death, and Google maps can be FUBAR at times. iPhone users have reported multiple GPS navigation issues in the past year. As in all cases, YMMV and there will be people who rely on Android or Apple without issue. Fine! But I think it is disingenuous to dismiss the fine Corvette NAV out of hand.

I am happy to have found this thread >2016 C7 Navigation Map Update< and I will be updating to the Next Generation Infotainment 2.5 System Map Update - V.2018 as soon as possible.

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I installed the v2017 map update in my 2014 and am very happy with how it functions, and ties in with both weather and traffic while on roadtrips. The gas stations w/prices, rest areas, and food along the route are all handy too.
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I am happy to have found this thread >2016 C7 Navigation Map Update< and I will be updating to the Next Generation Infotainment 2.5 System Map Update - V.2018 as soon as possible.
Looks like it's already available, and on sale: http://gmnavdisc.navigation.com/prod...l_0000RVAQo4fD

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Cell phones are ok as long as you have a signal.
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Here we go, every time someone asks about a navigation upgrade all the "use your phone" yahoo's crawl out of the woodwork.

Honestly to answer the OPs question, with the new USB based system, updates are not cheap, and they rarely are discounted. I wouldn't upgrade more than every 4-5 years as the changes made are not significant.

I'm actually of the opinion, by the way all you phone people, that the UI on phone navigation is terrible. So it's great you have updated maps, but you have a terrible interface which you actually have to use. I'd rather take a better UI (including HUD integration) and have the maps be a little outdated. I check the roads on my phone before I go anyway, so the car navigation is mostly as reminder (and a good checker of how much time you have left).
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Honestly to answer the OPs question, with the new USB based system, updates are not cheap, and they rarely are discounted. I wouldn't upgrade more than every 4-5 years as the changes made are not significant.
The $20 off plus free shipping currently has me tempted. I typically only upgrade every 2-3 years, but maybe I'll get click-happy today $139 really isn't terrible, especially with how much new construction is going on around my neighborhood, and the DFW Metroplex as a whole. At least my entire neighborhood was included on the v2017 update
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i use an I-phone and use an app called waze for all of my travels. Directions are spot on and detours are given in the event of an accident or heavy traffic. Oh, and BTW it also tells you where the LEO'S are in real time. Other features are numerous and never needs to be updated. WAZE is the way to go.
We were recently in a new neighborhood in Florida the only nav system out of three available that had the newer address was WAZE. Really like it but we also use the in car system because it has the turns etc on the heads up and on the center of the speedometer area. The WAZE does not move to the center screen thru Car Play.
We have the waze on the phone and the other in most cases on the car nav system Its all really covered nicely in most all cases
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Here's a FWIW:

On November 30, 2017, I purchased a used 2016 Yukon Denali (manufactured in 2015), so I thought I'd update my Nav since the newest update (v2018) was just released that month. So I went to the GM NAVDISC website, placed my order and received it about a week later. We were heading up to Wichita for the weekend and since it was going to take the good part of an hour to load, this was the perfect time to do it. So it loaded fine, confirmed per instructions, and that was that. Next day we plugged in a destination that, come to find out, has been closed for almost a year!! Okay, strike one. Couple weeks later, back home, we were in a different part of town and I wanted to get the quickest route to Trader Joe's that has been open just about a year and it wasn't in the POI database... Strike two!!

So, I decided to take the USB stick that had the Nav update came on and plugged it into my computer to see if I could look at some of the files. So looking at all the file dates got interesting. Of course I saw a date that corresponded to 2 days after I ordered the update and presumed that was the file with my VIN, which it was. Now the interesting piece of all this was that all the other file dates were January 2017 and May 2017.

My point here is that even though you think you are getting thee latest information, you're not. Especially when it's identified as "2018" you're barely getting what was current in 2017 and as I found out, some 2016 change/additions didn't make the v2018 edition!!

Bottom line... Don't waste your money on these so-called updates if you can use your Apple CarPlay or Android Auto maps/POI information for the most current information.

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Here's a FWIW:

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So, I decided to take the USB stick that had the Nav update came on and plugged it into my computer to see if I could look at some of the files. So looking at all the file dates got interesting. Of course I saw a date that corresponded to 2 days after I ordered the update and presumed that was the file with my VIN, which it was. Now the interesting piece of all this was that all the other file dates were January 2017 and May 2017.

My point here is that even though you think you are getting thee latest information, you're not. Especially when it's identified as "2018" you're barely getting what was current in 2017 and as I found out, some 2016 change/additions didn't make the v2018 edition!!

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Not going to argue the data age on those nav files, as it has been beat to death in other threads.

However, file dates may not tell the whole story. I did a quick examination of the files on my last USB upgrade stick, and found more than 1 file contained my VIN in plain text (no telling how many other files had a hashed version of it). So from my experience, just because a file date isn't what you expect, doesn't guarantee that the file hasn't been modified.

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Every user experience is different, and I'm posting so readers of this thread are not turned off by such a negative and yet uninformative post.

FWIW, in my case, the Nav in my 2016 is surprisingly accurate. For instance, I taken 2 trips to satellite offices my company owns in Illinois, and Minneapolis MN. Previously, in a rental car w/o Nav, during a Minneapolis trip, I used Google Maps, which made several errors, like insisting I make a 180 turn and proceed along what I knew was the wrong direction, and another time, Google thought I was on another road than what I was traveling.

Last year, I took my 2016 Corvette on a longer trip, to visit the same offices in IL, MN, and proceeding on a road trop to ND, SD, NB back to MO. At NO TIME was the Nav wrong, and my confidence level with the Vette nav is very high after the trip.

As noted elsewhere, Waze is battery death, and Google maps can be FUBAR at times. iPhone users have reported multiple GPS navigation issues in the past year. As in all cases, YMMV and there will be people who rely on Android or Apple without issue. Fine! But I think it is disingenuous to dismiss the fine Corvette NAV out of hand.

I am happy to have found this thread >2016 C7 Navigation Map Update< and I will be updating to the Next Generation Infotainment 2.5 System Map Update - V.2018 as soon as possible.
I agree, the nav in mine (2016 Z51 3LT) works very well also. I also like that it's integrated, including with the HU display, and counts down in feet coming up on your next turn. Really helpful when not familiar with the area. My 2¢.
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I have found the roads are usually good enough on older navigation maps. However, the points of interest change a lot so you may not find the gas station on the system. I don't intend to upgrade my system and think I can live with what I have for several years.
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Anyone knows where can i find GCC maps ?
Dealers here say they cant do it because the car is imported from US and the system will update only US maps not sure if that’s true..
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why bother updating if you have a IPhone all corvettes 2016 and newer have apple car play you can bring the maps from the phone up on the corvette screen
Yes but that costs money! You must use DATA from your phone!
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Here we go, every time someone asks about a navigation upgrade all the "use your phone" yahoo's crawl out of the woodwork.

Honestly to answer the OPs question, with the new USB based system, updates are not cheap, and they rarely are discounted. I wouldn't upgrade more than every 4-5 years as the changes made are not significant.

I'm actually of the opinion, by the way all you phone people, that the UI on phone navigation is terrible. So it's great you have updated maps, but you have a terrible interface which you actually have to use. I'd rather take a better UI (including HUD integration) and have the maps be a little outdated. I check the roads on my phone before I go anyway, so the car navigation is mostly as reminder (and a good checker of how much time you have left).
I don't have the navigation option in my car and I really miss it. Using my Iphone Apple Maps eats DATA on my phone that costs money to buy!
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Our 2017 was made 9-2016, with factory Nav. When I got the 2018 update last Fall (GM updates seem to come in the Fall), there was a big improvement in the accuracy of the depicted speed limits and the roads have been very good both locally and on long trips out to AZ/NV/UT/NM.

We've had several different factory Navs, two Garmins, and several smart phones with N.
All of them will work, all of them have disadvantages. We prefer the factory Nav systems.
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