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Old Mar 11, 2018 | 11:59 AM
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Hi guys,

I am trying to lease a Corvette and having never leased before wanted to get your input on the numbers. The car I’m interested in (2018 model) has a MSRP of 75k but the sale price is 63k. I also qualify for the $2000 dodge conquest so I’m thinking it brings the sale price down to 61k. Now when they calculate the residual value are they supposed to use the original 75k number or should they be using 61k?

Anyone know what residual value and money factor would make a decent deal?

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Old Mar 11, 2018 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HSB
Hi guys,

I am trying to lease a Corvette and having never leased before wanted to get your input on the numbers. The car I’m interested in (2018 model) has a MSRP of 75k but the sale price is 63k. I also qualify for the $2000 dodge conquest so I’m thinking it brings the sale price down to 61k. Now when they calculate the residual value are they supposed to use the original 75k number or should they be using 61k?

Anyone know what residual value and money factor would make a decent deal?

Thank you!
Residual value should be based on the list price. As a rule, the higher the residual, the higher the interest rate and the lower the residual, the lower the interest rate but also the monthly payment could be higher even with the lower interest rate so look at the whole picture. Historically, Vettes don’t lease well compared to other cars but if you can get a lease with a residual over 60% and an interest rate that isn’t insulting, you should be in the ballpark.
Also, make sure the mileage allowance is sufficient for your personal driving needs.

Also compare the monthly lease cost vs purchasing outright. If you are positive you will want to keep the vette for 36 months and then want a new one without the hassles of selling outright or getting hit with negative equity and you can easily drive within the milesge allowed, leasing is deft worth considering.
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 06:31 AM
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Leasehackr is your friend

Just about the worst car to lease in life...
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Residual is based off MSRP. Multiply MF by 2400 to see what % rate is. Corvettes lease terrible as they depreciate quickly and GM doesn't subsidize like say BMW or Mercedes.
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If the dealer is straight with you about the money factor and the residual percentage-I think they are set by GM- then the only variables are the cap cost (sales price) and rebates and other incentives. I would try to verify the money factor and residual % set by GM against the ones used by the dealer in the lease work up and then try to negotiate the best possible cap cost.

I would also compare the pros and cons of buying with a small down payment and financing the balance and then reselling after 3 yrs.
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as it was mentioned above, compare the lease price vs outright ownership. You may be surprised to see that the difference is not that much and sometimes its lower to own. That was my case when I purchased my GS, with the AMG we leased.
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on a 3 year lease they normally bring it back at less than 50 % on a 5,000 mile a year lease Money factor changes based on term. From my experience GM is not interested in leasing Corvette based on their residuals alone. Unless you can find an independent lease company that is interested I don't think its viable
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on a 3 year lease they normally bring it back at less than 50 % on a 5,000 mile a year lease Money factor changes based on term. From my experience GM is not interested in leasing Corvette based on their residuals alone. Unless you can find an independent lease company that is interested I don't think its viable
I haven't seen a GM financial lease that made sense on a vette but Ally has some deals that are worth looking at. Kerbeck has some attractive lease rates listed on their home page based on 5,000 miles/year. I would be interested in knowing what boosting it up to 12,000 miles/year would add to the rate listed.
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Buy the car at 63 and put some down and forget any lease.
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Good luck getting a dealer that will give you the same sale price and bonus cash on a lease that you would get on a purchase (what you are quoting as advertised is almost certainly only available on a purchase deal). Lease is usually much closer to full sticker. These cars just don't lease (and I lease ALL my other vehicles).
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Good luck getting a dealer that will give you the same sale price and bonus cash on a lease that you would get on a purchase (what you are quoting as advertised is almost certainly only available on a purchase deal). Lease is usually much closer to full sticker. These cars just don't lease (and I lease ALL my other vehicles).
If it's a legitimate dealer such as Kerbeck (not a shyster flim flam artist dealer), it doesn't make a difference. They spell it out in the lease contract that you are signing. It shows the list price of the car and then they deduct the dealer discount, any rebates, any affiliation discounts, down payments if any, etc and then they show the price they are selling the car for and then add the sales tax, registration and any other fees. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to run the numbers through an amortization calculator to compare a lease vs purchase deal.

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Originally Posted by direct007
If it's a legitimate dealer such as Kerbeck (not a shyster flim flam artist dealer), it doesn't make a difference. They spell it out in the lease contract that you are signing. It shows the list price of the car and then they deduct the dealer discount, any rebates, any affiliation discounts, down payments if any, etc and then they show the price they are selling the car for and then add the sales tax, registration and any other fees. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to run the numbers through an amortization calculator to compare a lease vs purchase deal.
I don't disagree with with the calculation aspect (or treatment by a legitimate dealer), but the the incentives used to get to the advertised price are almost always the purchase incentives. Its very rare that a dealer will provide the same level of discount on a lease transaction that they will on a purchase. Its a function of the rebates etc that are available and with Vettes GM typically has better offers for purchases than leases. Its not like the trucks and econo-boxes where they are focused on high volume and have a strategy to lease a ton of vehicles (my DD is a GMC truck lease deals are great).
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Leasing can be a very expensive way of financing .

Excessive wear,bad tires,paint & glass chips and too many miles at the end could really cost you.

I would suggest you buy,not lease.

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