The end of an era
#21
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Are we 100% on the no more manual transmission.... If this is true... I might lean more towards a hurracan than a c8 corvette... I deff wont be trading in my z06 like i initially thought i would... If there is no more manual, i will deff shop around instead of just ordering one like i initially planned.
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With the arrival of the ME you might have to say goodbye to the great view of the front end from behind the wheel when driving.
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Sure hope Chevy keeps making a front engine manual Vette. I'm just old-fashioned. But if I ever buy a mid-engine, it'll be a Porsche.
"Don't ever play someone else's game on their field. Play your own game."
"Don't ever play someone else's game on their field. Play your own game."
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#26
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I'm with that - the evolution has been quite nice. Actually, if you remove the C3 from the chain, it looks even more natural. The C3 screamed "Track car". The other models showed themselves more as versatile sports cars.
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Meh, this information was already posted and debated 2 weeks ago. I’ll wait and see...
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Are we 100% on the no more manual transmission.... If this is true... I might lean more towards a hurracan than a c8 corvette... I deff wont be trading in my z06 like i initially thought i would... If there is no more manual, i will deff shop around instead of just ordering one like i initially planned.
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It’s funny how that article writes “opinion” as if it is “fact”.
Did I miss the quoted reliable sources?
We’re just supposed to “take their word” on everything?
Not saying some of their SPECULATION won’t or can’t come true, but I’ll just take it as “fun to read fiction” until they can actually provide sources.
And of course, count me in as one of the dinosaurs who simply will NOT buy an automatic transmission-only Corvette. If the C7 is my last Corvette after literally decades of being an owner/enthusiast — so be it.
Did I miss the quoted reliable sources?
We’re just supposed to “take their word” on everything?
Not saying some of their SPECULATION won’t or can’t come true, but I’ll just take it as “fun to read fiction” until they can actually provide sources.
And of course, count me in as one of the dinosaurs who simply will NOT buy an automatic transmission-only Corvette. If the C7 is my last Corvette after literally decades of being an owner/enthusiast — so be it.
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Yeah - take the information with a grain of salt for the moment. C7 still produces MTs at an overall 20-25% clip (for the Z06 specifically, 1 out of 3), which is substantially over the national average, and I believe even over convertible sales.
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But we do agree — Totally not the end of the world. There are lots of other choices for sports cars other than Corvette. I’ve always loved Corvettes, but also could be happy with Porsche, Shelby, etc. if GM takes a major directional change with Corvettes that I don’t like.
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#34
It's a great view that I like seeing except when going westbound as the sun is setting, the reflection off the hood can be blinding and uncomfortable compared to cars where you can't see the front end.
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If Car & Drivers picture is anywhere close (I do highly doubt it is, but) I'll be doing just as you did brother. I'm off to look for a nice Z car, and be done.
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Relax. It all remains auto journalist speculation on a friggin vaporware car.
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IMO, discussions as to exactly what the new C8 is going to be and the fate of the C7 is premature at this point, especially any based on a magazine article that's prime purpose is to sell magazines.
I would suggest waiting on getting yourselves all stirred up until there's an "official" announcement from GM.
I would suggest waiting on getting yourselves all stirred up until there's an "official" announcement from GM.
What IS certain is:
1) Mid engine.
2) Twin tips behind the rear wheels.
3) A smaller trunk.
What is very likely, from a combination of C&D sources, spy photos and direct interviews is:
4) No targa roof.
5) No manual transmission.
6) Poorer rear visibility.
You can wait if you want, it's a free country. But if you wait until GM announces details officially to order a C7 I see a risk of the words "nationally constrained" in your order's future. Just go back and look at what happened to Watkins Glen Gray orders after the official word came out.
I was going to leave this post alone, until I saw this part:
All of the other things aside, there is absolutely no way production for the C7 is going to straight up end in January of 2019 barring an unexpected plant shutdown; in which case, no Corvettes will be built at all.
I'll say the same thing I said when people were expecting the C8 to be out as we speak, yet were still expecting a 2018 NAIAS reveal three weeks before the event this year (even though that concept of thinking was borderline asinine + no hints of GM saying anything Corvette related at the time except the ZR1) only to be disappointed: If GM reveals this vehicle at the NAIAS which is actually possible in 2019, the C7 is not getting discontinued in the same month. A more likely month (if it was to happen) would be around March or maybe April of 2019.
All of the other things aside, there is absolutely no way production for the C7 is going to straight up end in January of 2019 barring an unexpected plant shutdown; in which case, no Corvettes will be built at all.
I'll say the same thing I said when people were expecting the C8 to be out as we speak, yet were still expecting a 2018 NAIAS reveal three weeks before the event this year (even though that concept of thinking was borderline asinine + no hints of GM saying anything Corvette related at the time except the ZR1) only to be disappointed: If GM reveals this vehicle at the NAIAS which is actually possible in 2019, the C7 is not getting discontinued in the same month. A more likely month (if it was to happen) would be around March or maybe April of 2019.
From what I remember from The Bash interviews the entire Bowling Green plant will be shut down in August, set to re-open in December. Now, ask yourselves, would they shut down the whole plant to reconfigure it to produce both C7 and C8s, then shut it down a second time to switch over to only C8s later? Or would it make more sense to kill a quarter year's profits only once? Honestly I can see it both ways.
1) Shut down, then reopen with C7 and C8 parallel production because GM is nervous about the C8 being accepted by Corvette buyers. This leaves them a way out, perhaps, but costs them a lot more in the long run if the C8 is successful.
2) Shut down, then reopen with only C8 production because the future has been decided. And it's not like there is another front-engine practical and very fast sports car for any C7 owners to switch to. You can argue Mustang or Challenger, but no, neither of them are really comparable in terms of driving dynamics. This is the strongarm owner loyalty play.
I just read about the overlap. That explains a lot if correct. The ME will, if it comes out of the chute without any major problems, is a huge game changer, If you take ZR1 horsepower and put it in a weight balanced ME vehicle, the racing world of Ferrari, Porsche and Ford are in serious trouble.
I am curious as to will the C8 be supercharged, or move to twin turbos.....
I am curious as to will the C8 be supercharged, or move to twin turbos.....
I made this thread in the C7 section, since you obviously didn't actually read my OP, as a courtesy to C7 owners/prospective owners. Because many reading THIS forum section prefer a front engined Corvette. Starting this thread was to inform those ignorant of the fact that the C8 is very close and that the end of C7 production is probably closer than they think. So if you want to order a C7 I would get on it ASAP.
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#39
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The C7 moved so far away from what the traditional lines of a Corvette have looked like that it bears no resemblance to the "American Icon" Corvette had become. The C8 just continues that line where it's just going to look like another European sports car. I give kudo's to Porsche where they've found that way to evolve and yet still maintain the look where you immediately know it's a Porsche.
Losing any trunk space kills it as anything other than a bar hopper.
Losing any trunk space kills it as anything other than a bar hopper.
#40
Car guys won't ever get it.
Until you can walk into the dealership, write a check and drive it home, it is friggin VAPORWARE. Moreover, extrapolating this alleged (50 years worth of allegations in fact) car GM keeps threatening to sell us (via its inability to keep its corporate 'secrets' which is admittedly much harder in the car biz) into the extinction of the C7 despite rampant competing rumors to the contrary is pretty silly. Try not to get an aneurism over pointless speculation.
Nothing is more unfathomable, destructive to a company's sales and maddening in general than friggin vaporware. It would be worth whatever money GM has to spend to keep a MUCH tighter lid on this crap. Seriously.
Until you can walk into the dealership, write a check and drive it home, it is friggin VAPORWARE. Moreover, extrapolating this alleged (50 years worth of allegations in fact) car GM keeps threatening to sell us (via its inability to keep its corporate 'secrets' which is admittedly much harder in the car biz) into the extinction of the C7 despite rampant competing rumors to the contrary is pretty silly. Try not to get an aneurism over pointless speculation.
Nothing is more unfathomable, destructive to a company's sales and maddening in general than friggin vaporware. It would be worth whatever money GM has to spend to keep a MUCH tighter lid on this crap. Seriously.
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