Shifting question
Is there some some sort of limiter to keep you from going into 2nd if the rpms are too high?
is it ok to go from 1 to 3?
And a really lazy stupid question....if I’m in fourth and coming up to red light, can I just bump the shifter to to neutral w/o pressing the clutch? Haven’t tried it yet as I don’t want to grind gears. Just don’t know enough about the mechanics of a tranny to know how the gears are disengaging.
Is there some some sort of limiter to keep you from going into 2nd if the rpms are too high?
is it ok to go from 1 to 3?
And a really lazy stupid question....if I’m in fourth and coming up to red light, can I just bump the shifter to to neutral w/o pressing the clutch? Haven’t tried it yet as I don’t want to grind gears. Just don’t know enough about the mechanics of a tranny to know how the gears are disengaging.
Regarding question #2, you can shift out of a gear to neutral without the clutch as long as the gears are very lightly loaded. The more load on the gears, the more difficult it will be to do, and at some point it will start causing damage. Might be fun to play around with, but safer just to use the clutch. FYI, if you are really good, and can match revs extremely well, you can shift into gear without the clutch as well. Just has the potential to cause even more damage.
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Last edited by Trackaholic; May 4, 2018 at 08:43 PM.
Yes, it’s OK to go from 1-3...
Yes, you can bump into neutral, but it’s not recommended.
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Is there some some sort of limiter to keep you from going into 2nd if the rpms are too high?
is it ok to go from 1 to 3?
And a really lazy stupid question....if I’m in fourth and coming up to red light, can I just bump the shifter to to neutral w/o pressing the clutch? Haven’t tried it yet as I don’t want to grind gears. Just don’t know enough about the mechanics of a tranny to know how the gears are disengaging.
It forces a 1st to 4th shift if shifting at around ~1600 rpm in the narrow range needed for the EPA test!
A way many of us avoid this is by installing a ~$15 device that plugs in the wire harness and puts a resistor in the like making the computer think it activates the blocking solenoid pin! If you are handy when you have the car jacked up or on a lift, a <5 minute install!
This is a PDF of the install: http://netwelding.com/Skip_shift_Eliminator.pdf
DETAILS
This unwanted "feature" has been in Vettes for some years. If you read the Owner's Manual, to get "best" mpg it suggests shifting at low rpm's. Some at low as 1000 rpm. The first shift from first is at a low rpm that will force a 1st to 4th! Then the 4th to 5th etc are at very low rpm most would consider lugging the engine-but technically OK with the minimum throttle they no doubt employ for the EPA test! Can't believe anyone drives a Vette (or any car) that way!

As some, you can watch your speeds or as many of us do, install what is referred to as a CAGS Eliminator for a few dollars. Did that in my C6, C7 2014 and now my Grand Sport! Watched one of the gals in "All Girls Garage" TV Show do it with a Camaro that was on a lift in about a minute, real time! It just plugs into the wire harness. In some instances, such as in bumper to bumper traffic, the forced shift is a PIA! With the eliminator device installed you can shift where you want when you want!
TRANS:
The M7 is a conventional transmission not a sequential motorcycle trans. The syncro's "won't like" shifting into neutral without the clutch depressed. Sounds like you might be interested on how the trans works and more important just what the syncro's must do in milliseconds changing the speed of the very large gear clusters. This is a great video that I find is excellent even being a "gearhead" since my early teens!

REV MATCH:
The C7 Tremic M7 has a new feature called rev match! I find it very useful around town and for lower rpm shifting where my usual heal-toe rev match was not as accurate as what I have done for 60 years driving only standard shifts as my daily driver! With 7 speeds and an engine that has a wide torque range, unlike motorcycle engines, no need to shift sequentially. For example, when driving in town at 45/50 mph in 5th and turning I go directly into 3rd. Rev Match makes that a perfectly smooth transition my increasing the rpm to match the required engine rpm for the lower gear. The same when on the Interstate and exiting. No need to go through two other overdrives, 6th and 5th, just shift directly to direct drive 4th. Rev match makes the shift perfectly smooth.
I am quite good at matching the rpms at a one gear change when the engine rpm in the lower gear will be closer to redline. Much harder to modulate the throttle to say 2500 to 3000 rpm at lower speeds when not driving in anger!
Have fun.
Last edited by JerryU; May 5, 2018 at 08:37 AM.
For decades, I have routinely shifted into neutral when the engine/trans RPMs are matched and the gears are unloaded.
You can also shift from 1st to 3ed or 4th or 5th... if you want to. (I have no idea why you would want to, but you can...) As long as you don't cause the engine to stall or lug.



















