GS vs Stingray
#21
Do yourself a favor and upgrade to at least a Z51 Stingraywith a 2LT. I promise you that no GS will beat you in a street race. The only place any GS street racer beat anyone was on their computer keyboard. They're all talk. If you like to waste over $10,000.00 on something that looks like it's faster than your Z51 Stingray - but will never race you in the street, then get one. If you really want a fast car, buy a ZO6. Those, actually are faster.
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Mobil 1 (06-19-2018)
#22
Melting Slicks
A 3LT is the same in either car. A 2 LT is the same in either car. A 1LT is the same in either car.
So would a 1LT GS be more luxurious than a 3LT stingray? I am 100% positive the Stingray would be more Luxurious in this case.
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911Hunter (06-19-2018)
#23
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I'm sure the GS is not actually a faster car, it just hooks up from a dead stop better. How often do 99% of drivers do a full bogey start from a dead stop? After that the lighter car is going to accelerate harder, although in fairness the difference would be negligible.
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#24
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I'm sure the GS is not actually a faster car, it just hooks up from a dead stop better. How often to 99% of drivers do a full bogey start from a dead stop? After that the lighter car is going to accelerate harder, although in fairness the difference would be negligible.
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Do yourself a favor and upgrade to at least a Z51 Stingraywith a 2LT. I promise you that no GS will beat you in a street race. The only place any GS street racer beat anyone was on their computer keyboard. They're all talk. If you like to waste over $10,000.00 on something that looks like it's faster than your Z51 Stingray - but will never race you in the street, then get one. If you really want a fast car, buy a ZO6. Those, actually are faster.
Mobil 1 is coming from a Base C7. And you would be correct that is a $10,000 difference from a Base to a GS! However buying a Z51 is a bit irrational as it's only a $3,000 difference and has the same "must change brake pads and live with a stiff ride!" (For those "up North" that drive in the winter the skinny tires replaced with all-seasons make it useful for some.)
Could be a difficult resale and same with a lease! To validate, I just clicked on the Kerbeck logo in the upper right of this page (who sponsors the General Section) to see what the largest seller of Vettes on the Country has or will have in inventory. It says 336 cars. Checked the inventory of Z51 Coupes and Verts-it remains zero as it has for some time!
The Z was a great option when there was no GS, I had one for 3 1/2 years. But today the two smart NA buys are the Base car for the $10,000 lower price, better ride, no need to change brake pads or deal with a dry sump- or the GS. If you want to spend more than a supercharged Z06 with more power - that is what they have in inventory!
As far as "Street Racing" which I gave up as "stupid" when I was 19 (although had fun for 2 years and was seldom beat with my '41 Coupe I stuffed in a bored out Olds engine) that 150 pound Base/Z51 difference and the higher drag from the spoiler (0.35 versus -.30 Cd) the Base C7 will beat a Z51 in a drag race up to whatever speed!
Did all the body and engine work myself. The Olds was assembled from parts all in peach baskets bought cheap! New pistons, cam and large 4 barrel carb! Pep Boys primer was all I could afford from my part time job in a supermarket but performance was most important!
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Mobil 1 (06-19-2018)
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Is this debate still going on? I just went to the Chevy website, and built a Z51 and a GS. Both equipted exactly like my 2016 Z51. 2lt LBR, MRC, NAV, manual, machined wheels, carbon badges jet black...
GS $76025
Z51$72820
I ordered my Z51 and paid $67,000 in Sept 2015 when 16's just were coming out.
If they had a GS, I probably would have got that. Seeing as it's only 4.4% more...
GS $76025
Z51$72820
I ordered my Z51 and paid $67,000 in Sept 2015 when 16's just were coming out.
If they had a GS, I probably would have got that. Seeing as it's only 4.4% more...
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JerryU (06-19-2018)
#28
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Ok, let's say GS isn't necessarily faster so we can avoid having to come up with an exact definition of 'faster' that everyone will agree with and just say GM officially reports the GS as having a lower time in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile and you will be hard-pressed to find anywhere Stingray (base or Z51) has turned in a lower time in any organized/official track testing. C&D lightning lap, for example, the GS ran 2:47.1 the Z51 2:53.8.
I'm not trying to say Stingray is anything less than a GS as it's not, it's all about individual preference and desired use. Thanks
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I'm simply reporting published data, if you have any to the contrary, please share it. I've seen many reports of GS turning lower track times than Stringray, however never the opposite.
I'm not trying to say Stingray is anything less than a GS as it's not, it's all about individual preference and desired use. Thanks
I'm not trying to say Stingray is anything less than a GS as it's not, it's all about individual preference and desired use. Thanks
#31
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If you are referring to the fact that the GS has wider tires and may be better for us amateurs going around a track with better traction, I will agree. But it has EXACTLY the same torque and HP, and the GS is even a little heavier. So all things being equal, in the quarter mile, a stingray should be faster.
#32
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If you are referring to the fact that the GS has wider tires and may be better for us amateurs going around a track with better traction, I will agree. But it has EXACTLY the same torque and HP, and the GS is even a little heavier. So all things being equal, in the quarter mile, a stingray should be faster.
I could feel the traction control kick in much more often and stronger with my Stingray than my current GS. If the nannies aren't throttling back as much you're using more of the identical HP and TQ.
#33
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If you are referring to the fact that the GS has wider tires and may be better for us amateurs going around a track with better traction, I will agree. But it has EXACTLY the same torque and HP, and the GS is even a little heavier. So all things being equal, in the quarter mile, a stingray should be faster.
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911Hunter (06-19-2018)
#35
Burning Brakes
I have a C7 Z51. If you are planning to track it, the best would be the GS followed by the Z51, but for just DD a base Vette is sufficient and still looks great.
Unless you park the GS besides a non GS C7 it would be hard to notice the wider rear GS body.
Unless you park the GS besides a non GS C7 it would be hard to notice the wider rear GS body.
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If you are referring to the fact that the GS has wider tires and may be better for us amateurs going around a track with better traction, I will agree. But it has EXACTLY the same torque and HP, and the GS is even a little heavier. So all things being equal, in the quarter mile, a stingray should be faster.
Ultimately, in a drag race, accounting for manufacturing variances between individual cars, there is very little difference between a z51 and a GS in say a quarter mile drag race. Now in a track race, it's been demonstrated that a GS is definitely faster than a Z51, due to the same reasons, suspension and tires.
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Do yourself a favor and upgrade to at least a Z51 Stingraywith a 2LT. I promise you that no GS will beat you in a street race. The only place any GS street racer beat anyone was on their computer keyboard. They're all talk. If you like to waste over $10,000.00 on something that looks like it's faster than your Z51 Stingray - but will never race you in the street, then get one. If you really want a fast car, buy a ZO6. Those, actually are faster.
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#40
Dude, they're both great cars. Both will get you thrown in jail if you drive them anywhere near their limits on public roads. I would personally go with the one that you like the looks of the most. If you like the slick lines of the Stingray / Z51, than that is your car. If you like the look of the wide body and want some extra exclusivity, then go with the GS. This is one of those decisions where you really can't go wrong.
I like the looks and performance of my Z51. If I was going to go with a wide body, I would probably move up to the Z06. If I'm going to jail, I want to have a damn good reason for being there!
I like the looks and performance of my Z51. If I was going to go with a wide body, I would probably move up to the Z06. If I'm going to jail, I want to have a damn good reason for being there!