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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave80C3
I am well aware they use Measurements when awarding contracts or renewing them. USAA dropped a body shop, that they highly recommend. It was on of the only ones where a USAA adjuster did not have to come out. Just take your car in, and the Body shop does it all. All you do is pay your deductible.

Thing is USAA had to many complaints about crappy workmanship. I know my wife's Range Rover, after four return trips was sent to another body shop. It was a very minor body work, just a front quarter panel, head light and some paint. The paint work sucked, the quarter panel did not line up. And the adaptive head light did not move.

I found out six months later they were no longer even an approved USAA repair facility.


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insurance companies do hold claims of any sort against you, whether they raise the rates immediately or later
Not for glass claims that fail under your comprehensive coverage … that is not unless you are a habitual claimant …..

for the once in a while claim , there is not a chance your rate for comprehensive will go up , they know glass will break , they know cars get broken into , they know WHAT Cars get broken into more than others

all this is figured into the rate

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Here we go with all the windshield internet urban legends...
1- There is absolutely no difference between the AGC branded glass and the OEM except for the GM logo , take a look at the DOT number in the bottom corner of your glass.
There are over 100 000 C7 running around , Your car will never become a 100 point pebble beach concours winner or cross the auction block at Meacham auctions , so why do you need the GM logo .....?
Good info except your opinion. Yes, it might be on Pebble Beach. Yes I demand the GM and HUD logo. I have no issues with Safelite on my daily driver Subaru, but they won't come close to my C7.
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Originally Posted by Olden Slowe
The AGC screen installed by safelite shown in my post above is a HUD screen in my ZO6
Which is the OEM Supplier ,

Absolutely no difference between the OE ( Original Equipment ) supplier glass and the OEM (Original equipment supplier with the GM branding ) Glass

All made on the same line with the same products and the same labor force , yet $500 to $800 cheaper , you make the right choice

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ImpliedConsent
Good info except your opinion. Yes, it might be on Pebble Beach. Yes I demand the GM and HUD logo. I have no issues with Safelite on my daily driver Subaru, but they won't come close to my C7.
One correction , the facts I stated … are not my opinion , they are just that FACTS …

And you can demand what you want as far as OEM … but what the insurance company will pay for all depends on your rider …..

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 01:34 PM
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This is from Florida but would apply to anywhere in the US.

https://www.autoglasssarasota.com/fl...lass-claim-fl/

Yes, the Insurance companies use many parameters to score their preferred shops, but I assure you that if you don't meet their price requirements your not in the game.

When you call a large mobile glass company, you are rolling the dice. You may get a good installer with 20 years experience or you may get a rookie with a month on the job. I would prefer to take my car to their shop and tell them to take their time as opposed to having a mobile installer come to my work and put up a pop up tent to stay out of the rain and do the installation. I feel you odds are better if they have it at their facility and are unhurried.
A windshield installation is not difficult for an experienced installer, but a poor installer can make a mess. Urethane smudges on the dash or steering wheel, broken mouldings urethaned together instead of replaced, weatherstrips torn, clips broken and parts glued on. I've seen it all over the years.
For my car, I was going to use a AGC glass. There are many variations of C7 windshields, Coupe, Conv, W/ Heads up, W/ gps. Some are available in the aftermarket, some need to come from the dealer and will have the GM logo. The pricing on all of them is different. My personal preference is to have the same windshield I had before. I don't want to see a Shatterproof logo every time I clean my windshield. If I was purchasing a C7 and it didn't have an AGC windshield, it would certainly be in the price negotiations
So IMHO, do your due diligence to pick your glass installer. In your area the best may be a large company or it may be a smaller company, it comes down to the individual installer that does your job.
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Spoken like a true indy lol lol

So only large glass shop mobile installers are hacks lol lol

And small glass shops all have experienced installers

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 01:53 PM
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I had mine replaced under warranty. According to my Chevrolet dealer GM has a deal with Saflite that they do their windshield replacement.

Also you should try to make sure they replace it with a GM Factory Windshield not a replacement windshield.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 02:13 PM
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I keep my cars far longer than most here, if you believe all the posters. Regardless, I have long term experience with replacement windshields. There is no question at all- Safelite glass shows scratches, wiper travel scratches, and general "sandblasting" damage from sand and debris over the years, far more than factory glass. If you really trade in three or four years, it does not really matter. If you keep your cars, avoid aftermarket glass. It is cheaper for a reason.

Check your policy. One, why would anybody not have full glass coverage. If you dump collision on older cars (I do that) you pay a small extra premium to retain full glass coverage. You should never pay for replacements out of pocket. Two, you do have a choice in where you get your car repaired and that includes glass. I insisted on taking my wife's old 2002 Buick to a glass shop, had Geico provide a repair claim number to them and received GM glass. No extra charge.

Never mind the "internet" expert comment above. Safelite is cheaper for a reason. No car that is a keeper should have anything but factory glass. I have run some of my cars well over 200k and my oldest runner is a 1992. I speak from experience. Avoid aftermarket glass.
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Originally Posted by golden2husky
I keep my cars far longer than most here, if you believe all the posters. Regardless, I have long term experience with replacement windshields. There is no question at all- Safelite glass shows scratches, wiper travel scratches, and general "sandblasting" damage from sand and debris over the years, far more than factory glass. If you really trade in three or four years, it does not really matter. If you keep your cars, avoid aftermarket glass. It is cheaper for a reason.

Check your policy. One, why would anybody not have full glass coverage. If you dump collision on older cars (I do that) you pay a small extra premium to retain full glass coverage. You should never pay for replacements out of pocket. Two, you do have a choice in where you get your car repaired and that includes glass. I insisted on taking my wife's old 2002 Buick to a glass shop, had Geico provide a repair claim number to them and received GM glass. No extra charge.

Never mind the "internet" expert comment above. Safelite is cheaper for a reason. No car that is a keeper should have anything but factory glass. I have run some of my cars well over 200k and my oldest runner is a 1992. I speak from experience. Avoid aftermarket glass.
Like I said , here come the experts ...

It is mindless chatter like this that spreads internet urban legends, so it's your feeling that cheap glass is softer , more susceptible to scratching and wiper marks ....so ot must be true ...

Really what do you base these statements on , where is your data source for making these statements

Let me clue u in GLASS is GLASS , there is not one brand that is softer than another . Would you like to take a tour of a manufacturing plant ?

I would also like to see the receipt and a picture of the DOT stamp to see the OEM GM markings because no one is making OEM glass for a 16 year old car . I am pretty confident you got OE glass ...
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 03:43 PM
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Another statement you made is SAFELITE glass is cheaper for reason ...Safelite does not manufacture glass and has not in a along time , their warehouses are full of 80 % OE glass with the rest being OEM ...

The same glass the other guys are using Pilkington, ZY AGC Sequrit, AP TECH ......

Please ... stop lol lol

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Being there is a lot of mis information in this thread i correct a few things. The insurance companies are almost always looking for the cheapest out.
Safelite can get OEM glass if you insist on it. A prevous poster in this thread stated all auto glass is the same, they are not. Safelite mostly uses their own brand of glass (Safevue)which I have handled many time, it has fitment issued and is much more prone to breakage then OEM glass or quality brands such as PPG, LOF, Carlite, ect. A lot of installers move around from Safelite to small shops over their careers. I worked for an auto glass distributor for 9 years in the 90s and i would absolutely avoid Safelite at all costs. I'm lucky enough to know who to goto in my area.
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Another statement you made is SAFELITE glass is cheaper for reason ...Safelite does not manufacture glass and has not in a along time , their warehouses are full of 80 % OE glass with the rest being OEM ...

The same glass the other guys are using Pilkington, ZY AGC Sequrit, AP TECH ......

Please ... stop lol lol
When i was in the auto glass business Safelite was absolutely using their own brand of cheap Chinese made glass. What year did they stop? My auto glass distribution company had to supply them when they needed OEM.

Pilkington, AP Tech are also quality brands, i agree.

How long did you work in the auto glass industry??

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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 04:28 PM
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Safelite replaced the windshields on a C4, a C6, a CTS-V Cadillac, and my C7 - all were fine.....

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Originally Posted by BlueDevilZ51
Safelite can get OEM glass if you insist on it. A prevous poster in this thread stated all auto glass is the same, they are not. Safelite mostly uses their own brand of glass (Safevue)which I have handled many time, it has fitment issued and is much more prone to breakage then OEM glass or quality brands such as PPG, LOF, Carlite, ect. A lot of installers move around from Safelite to small shops over their careers. I worked for an auto glass distributor for 9 years in the 90s and i would absolutely avoid Safelite at all costs. I'm lucky enough to know who to goto in my area.
So much has changed since the 90's , you are kidding making the statements you are making right ? this makes you an expert …?

Safelight does not manufacture DOT 65 and has not for a long time …. the plant has been sold and they now supply their warehouses with 80% OE and 20 % OEM , like I stated above but you were to busy trying to prove me wrong ……...

Quality brands like PPG , your kidding right , its no longer even called PPG anymore , its PGW since being sold to investors and now LKQ ( the junk yard people ) most of there assortment is XY which comes from China , why don't you call some of your old contacts and ask them about DOT 95 …..

Carlite , Ford sold the glass division years ago , its is now CARLEX with many plants in Mexico …. so you can guess what the quality of that part is right ……

LOF , is no longer LOF , its Pilkington , but the still make a quality piece

Its people like you that spread the rumors ,

at least lets get with the times and spread the correct truths ….

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Originally Posted by 4thC4at60
Safelite replaced the windshields on a C4, a C6, a CTS-V Cadillac, and my C7 - all were fine.....

Good to know …..

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Been with USAA for almost 48 years. Comp claim for a windshield has not raised my premium. Have had numerous windshields replaced. They recommend Safelite and I used them several times. First installer dented my roof. Second installer installed distorted glass. Replaced that glass with another glass and got sealant all over dash. I ask USAA if I can use Gerber Glass here in the Chicago area. Never had a problem with them

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My windshield is trashed from track days. Just curious, what does it cost?
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Originally Posted by Artilleryusmc
Been with USAA for almost 48 years. Comp claim for a windshield has not raised my premium. Have had numerous windshields replaced. They recommend Safelite and I used them several times. First installer dented my roof. Second installer installed distorted glass. Replaced that glass with another glass and got sealant all over dash. I ask USAA if I can use Gerber Glass here in the Chicago area. Never had a problem with them
Very common result.
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Originally Posted by Dcasole

Safevue ...its not even a brand lol lol
I will not argue with you any more ... it's not worth the time, you believe what you want to believe ... if that makes you feel better .... and make sure you tell the world about your belief....

You win ...... feel better ....


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guess you missed this in your google search.

http://www.pgglass.co.za/safevue-windscreens/
Care to share what glass distributor you haveworked for for 35 years.. i worked for Repco Distributors/curved Glass distributors.
If you have to go to calling me an A hole because i corrected some of your misinformation, its obvious that youre just embarrassed that i called out your incorrect statements.

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