Why GM needs to keep building the C7
#21
Some folks on here seem to think it is simply a stroke of luck that dealers own multi-million dollar businesses producing millions of dollars in profits while too simple to even be able to order Corvettes the elite owners would appreciate and want to buy. Those folks ordering a dealers inventory have a far broader base of information available to them than most imagine. The purpose is to move the inventory as quickly as possible which maximizes profits.You do not order inventory to minimize cost but rather to maximize turnover.
There are individuals in every dealership that are dedicated to building an inventory that makes money. There are marketing folks at every manufacturer whose total job is to make the same goal happen for the dealer and the manufacturer. It would be rather naive and snobbish to think fourteen people on a forum somewhere have far more knowledge about what needs to be stocked than hundreds of professionals that spend their entire working life on such things.
There are individuals in every dealership that are dedicated to building an inventory that makes money. There are marketing folks at every manufacturer whose total job is to make the same goal happen for the dealer and the manufacturer. It would be rather naive and snobbish to think fourteen people on a forum somewhere have far more knowledge about what needs to be stocked than hundreds of professionals that spend their entire working life on such things.
#22
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GM can't keep the doors open at BG making only a C-8 ME car. A good guess would be that the C-7's will be built at the same time the C-8 ME cars are built and after several years the C-7 will go away and a FRONT engine C-8 will be built. How long the C-8 ME is built (if it is built as a Corvette) will be determined by demand. I look forward to buying a new Front engine C-8 to replace my C-7.
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#23
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Doesnt bowling green plan to produce cadillacs blackwing v8s as well as c8 corvettes.?
i still believe the cadillac division funded a portion of the bowling green expansion and research and development of the c8platform ..
bowling green has been successful for the c5, the c6 and the c7...
why would that profitability change with the upcoming c8?
i still believe the cadillac division funded a portion of the bowling green expansion and research and development of the c8platform ..
bowling green has been successful for the c5, the c6 and the c7...
why would that profitability change with the upcoming c8?
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#24
The C8 will start at $60,400. GM has hired a full 2nd shift to keep up with demand.
#25
Drifting
I have yet to see an announcement from GM that the mid-engine car is even going to BE a Corvette. If there has been an announcement from GM, please provide a link.
You may see mules with Corvette body panels but that may be for convenience. Remember the Cadillac XLR was made in Bowling Green, too.
You may see mules with Corvette body panels but that may be for convenience. Remember the Cadillac XLR was made in Bowling Green, too.
#26
Apparently this is a really old thread... whoops.
#27
Looks like the "related threads feature" has struck again. That's what usually resurrects dead threads, and since they appear at the end of current threads, folks don't realize they've entered the "dead zone."
Everyone should go to the User CP button and options to turn if off. It's a curse.
Everyone should go to the User CP button and options to turn if off. It's a curse.
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GM doesn't give a flip what anyone else thinks. They will do as they are going to do, anyway. Guaranteed!
#29
Agreed, but dealers skew the data. They low-ball the cars they buy fearing they can't sell anything but Arctic White with 1LT black interiors. They're worried that they won't be able to sell a more expensive 3LT kalahari interior so they don't take a chance or gamble. So along comes the type of buyer who has never ordered a car and may not even know he CAN order a car from a dealer who doesn't have an allocation anyway. Most buyers, I venture to say, are not like people on this forum who have memorized the Chevy build site options. Besides, the buyer doesn't want to wait for an order and the dealer wants to sell a car TODAY. So the buyer figures his choice is between the two or three Vettes the dealer has on the lot. The deck is stacked against the buyer because the whole game is to get you to buy TODAY. The buyer is faced with choices restricted by unimaginative dealers. I believe an analysis of 'ordered cars' would reveal a much different mix of what people would buy if they felt they had the freedom to do so.
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Utter nonsense. There is no business model that supports the building of two distinctly different Corvettes. When the first mid-engine Corvette rolls down the Bowling Green assembly line, that's it for front-engine Corvettes. Period.
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#33
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Its my understanding that the C8 will be the end of the front engine Corvettes. Let's assume that the C8 doesn't go over as well as GM is hoping, either due to price, or looks of the car, or some other reason. What are they going to do?
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Looks like the "related threads feature" has struck again. That's what usually resurrects dead threads, and since they appear at the end of current threads, folks don't realize they've entered the "dead zone."
Everyone should go to the User CP button and options to turn if off. It's a curse.
Everyone should go to the User CP button and options to turn if off. It's a curse.
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Txshaggy was quoting post #10; from a user by the name of CP, who made that post on June 29th, 2018. What you and Txshaggy are saying is true. However, the dialect suggests that CP should've known this information when it was impossible to do so considering that CP's post was made at least 9 months before any of those announcements happened.
#37
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Artic White...……………………...6,199...………...18.9%
Watkins Glen Gray...…………….5,822...………...17.8%
Black...…………………………….5,338...…………16.3%
Torch Red...………………………4,621...…………14.1%
Admiral Blue...……………………3,068...………….9.4%
Blade Silver...…………………….2,105...…………..6.4%
Long Beach Red...……………….2,004...………….6.1%
Corvette Racing Yellow...……….1,371...………….4.2%
Black Rose...……………………..1,333...………….4.1%
Sterling Blue...……………………...921...………….2.8%
I believe that if you check out some dealer's inventory, the colors they have in stock will be of the best sellers, not what the wife of the general manager likes the best.
#38
I can't for the life of me understand why default is not disable mode. Having it the opposite creates a lot of needless clutter on the forum with now non-sensical responses to ancient posts without realizing it, not to mention a lot of wasted time scrolling. I'd venture to guess 90+% of users don't know it can be disabled.
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#39
Drifting
Think the C8 will be a big hit. That said low sales equal rebates & discounts just like the current C7 going for $48,000 in 1LT trim with a $60K MSRP. Lots of fat in the Corvette price, its a very high margin car for GM.
#40
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As others stated I fear the front engine rear drive Vette is about dead. That doesn't mean I don't wish they would keep one around for those who would remain loyal. However it's not cost productive to do so unless you make the same car you currently do or make minimal changes that are easy to make that don't cost millions upon millions.
I sure hope the C8 is offered with a manual and is not a huge price increase over the C7.
I sure hope the C8 is offered with a manual and is not a huge price increase over the C7.