Possible to reverse Mild 2 Wild function?
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Racer
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Possible to reverse Mild 2 Wild function?
Recently installed the mild 2 wild controller on my C7Z. The car starts up in open valves mode every time. Is there any way to reverse that? Or is it possible to keep the mode that it was shut off the same as startup?
My C6Z had all of that functionality on the M2W controller so I'm basically just looking for that again.
My C6Z had all of that functionality on the M2W controller so I'm basically just looking for that again.
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Don't think so. If you mount the remote beside your "start/stop" button and as soon as you hit the "start" just immediately hit the left remote button, the flaps will close before the engine actually fires up.
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I agree. I have the left most Homelink button on the visor programmed to close the valve. Hold that button down with my left hand when I push the start with my right hand, and it starts like a Camry, every time.
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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...mory-mode.html
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My bet is they they didn't even try and just hooked the fuseblock tap into fuse 42, saw that it worked, and called it a day.
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There were some folks that tested the impact and it was minimum at best, and you could easily set it to off mode to have zero draw. There weren't many people complaining about it so I'm doubtful that is the reasoning. Even if it was the reason, don't you think they would offer the "last remembered" installation in the C7 instructions to give their customers another option for installation if they knew it even existed?
My bet is they they didn't even try and just hooked the fuseblock tap into fuse 42, saw that it worked, and called it a day.
To have the system start in the closed position or to remember the last setting the M2W switch would have to be powered up
This is the way it was originally designed.......
Killing the battery is all over the C6 forums
It's a simple design and you can make it anyway you want by splitting out the power to the switch and the power to the NPP and hooking up the NPP to the NPP fuse and the power to the switch to an always on connection....
Dave
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no no ... that is the reason....and I am sure it is the reason....
To have the system start in the closed position or to remember the last setting the M2W switch would have to be powered up
This is the way it was originally designed.......
Killing the battery is all over the C6 forums
It's a simple design and you can make it anyway you want by splitting out the power to the switch and the power to the NPP and hooking up the NPP to the NPP fuse and the power to the switch to an always on connection....
Dave
To have the system start in the closed position or to remember the last setting the M2W switch would have to be powered up
This is the way it was originally designed.......
Killing the battery is all over the C6 forums
It's a simple design and you can make it anyway you want by splitting out the power to the switch and the power to the NPP and hooking up the NPP to the NPP fuse and the power to the switch to an always on connection....
Dave
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You can definitely install MTW two ways. One that has current draw when car is off, and one with zero current draw. Check the installation videos to see how to change installation.
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So I had the M2W on my 2009 C6. I ended up using the "no drain" setup that as I remember used the fuse for "heated seats" for power instead of the NPP fuse. And I did that because many people reported dead batteries with the "drain" installation. And I was one of them.
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Show me some threads where people's batteries were consistently dying because of a tiny low powered "always on" module. Yes if you left your car sitting for a few weeks it would have an impact but otherwise no. And that doesn't address the fact that the C7 M2W had the always on mode omitted from their instructions which means they likely didn't even know how to set it up. Or didn't care to. More options is ALWAYS a better thing.
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So I had the M2W on my 2009 C6. I ended up using the "no drain" setup that as I remember used the fuse for "heated seats" for power instead of the NPP fuse. And I did that because many people reported dead batteries with the "drain" installation. And I was one of them.
I'm not saying that it's unheard of for the drain to occur and impact the battery. I'm just saying that the instructions omitted a useful option for some of us who prefer the original C6 M2W installation method with the always on memory characteristic.
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So I had the M2W on my 2009 C6. I ended up using the "no drain" setup that as I remember used the fuse for "heated seats" for power instead of the NPP fuse. And I did that because many people reported dead batteries with the "drain" installation. And I was one of them.
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I am sure that they are playing it safe by offering a plug and play solution for the masses and for those that might not want it like this can just look up the many videos that are online to show you how to do it
Dave
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I am sure the reason why they omitted it is because some folks might not really have the skills to split the power sources ....
I am sure that they are playing it safe by offering a plug and play solution for the masses and for those that might not want it like this can just look up the many videos that are online to show you how to do it
Dave
I am sure that they are playing it safe by offering a plug and play solution for the masses and for those that might not want it like this can just look up the many videos that are online to show you how to do it
Dave
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The "why don't you just do it the way we've always done it" mentality is the reason why many businesses get left behind. I work in a business where we constantly look for process gaps and create solutions. That's just my mentality. So when I saw zero instructions for wiring this M2W switch up in the way I had it on my last two Vette's I was mildly disappointed. It took 10 minutes of my time to create a solution to something with no extra effort. I'm sure there will be some folks that will find my how-to handy. Likely those folks who drive their Corvette's every day (like myself) or weekly. This alternative option will likely not be for your once a month Sunday driver. For those folks, it's not hard to push the button right after startup a couple times a month. I use my M2W fob 3-5 times a day depending on where I am driving to.
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Modify the M2W switch at your own risk and I do not take any responsibility for following these directions ….. ….
Synacks , the instructions in the link below were for a C6 when the M2W was energized all the time and the optional instructions were to have it turn off so you did not get a battery drain over a long period of time
( because so many people were complaining about dead batteries , small drain or not , it was a reality otherwise they would not have changed it )
It looks like you can reverse engineer the C7 unit it if you like by...…( if I am correct
)
1-Removing the WHITE WIRE from the fuse holder of the M2W
2-Plug the M2W red wire and fuse holder into a 12 volt always on connection which should keep the circuit energized even if the key is in the OFF position
3 The fuse you removed from the always on must be put in the second tap so it can still supply a 12 fused power source to what ever it was powering if you " Borrowed" a 12 volt hot connection
This next part I would test first just to make sure my theory is correct ….. do this next step before proceeding to number 5
4 The unit should now be energized at all times , measure the output of the 12 volt wire , when pushing the OPEN button you should have no power to the white lead and when pressing the CLOSED button the white wire should have 12 volts I would test with a multimeter before proceeding to step 5
5 Insert the white wire 12 volt on off lead into the open not hot fuse lug on the fuse panel for the NPP , U MUST INSERT THIS IN THE SIDE THAT IS NOT HOT … use a multimeter to determine which connection this is
The M2W should stay energized now and remember your last setting
Let us know how it works out ….
Dave
C6 M2W instructions with optional " No Drain" wiring
https://corvettestore.com/media/wysi...ld-exhaust.pdf
Synacks , the instructions in the link below were for a C6 when the M2W was energized all the time and the optional instructions were to have it turn off so you did not get a battery drain over a long period of time
( because so many people were complaining about dead batteries , small drain or not , it was a reality otherwise they would not have changed it )
It looks like you can reverse engineer the C7 unit it if you like by...…( if I am correct
)1-Removing the WHITE WIRE from the fuse holder of the M2W
2-Plug the M2W red wire and fuse holder into a 12 volt always on connection which should keep the circuit energized even if the key is in the OFF position
3 The fuse you removed from the always on must be put in the second tap so it can still supply a 12 fused power source to what ever it was powering if you " Borrowed" a 12 volt hot connection
This next part I would test first just to make sure my theory is correct ….. do this next step before proceeding to number 5
4 The unit should now be energized at all times , measure the output of the 12 volt wire , when pushing the OPEN button you should have no power to the white lead and when pressing the CLOSED button the white wire should have 12 volts I would test with a multimeter before proceeding to step 5
5 Insert the white wire 12 volt on off lead into the open not hot fuse lug on the fuse panel for the NPP , U MUST INSERT THIS IN THE SIDE THAT IS NOT HOT … use a multimeter to determine which connection this is
The M2W should stay energized now and remember your last setting
Let us know how it works out ….
Dave
C6 M2W instructions with optional " No Drain" wiring
https://corvettestore.com/media/wysi...ld-exhaust.pdf
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It's a preference. I don't have my M2W fob mounted there nor would I ever want it to be so close to the engine ON/OFF button
I don't like the remote anywhere I can see it either , in my C6 I had it doublefaced tapped just inside the pocket in the door panel , I could easly reach down and open or close the valves and I did not have to see the remote or have it look like it was " STUCK" on …..
Do you have the HOME LINK buttons in your visor , I programmed the one on the left to close and the one on the right to open
The "why don't you just do it the way we've always done it" mentality is the reason why many businesses get left behind. I work in a business where we constantly look for process gaps and create solutions.
Dave