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Old 07-19-2018, 11:48 AM
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so funny how many of ya'll say you will wait til year 2 or 3 when alot of people including me bought year 1 of the c7. And that year was awesome! the looks I got from driving a car most have not seen before was well worth taking the chance for some warranty work from the dealers.
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Old 07-19-2018, 11:53 AM
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You sound like an avid golfer and I can appreciate someone passionalte about their hobbies. But just for fun if you have to give up one golf or the vette which would you keep?
The Corvette would go - living close to NYC (12 miles east and commuting by train M-F to NYC for work), we have few fun roads within 30 miles of where I live (unless of course you happen to like straight multi-lane roads with more traffic than most other places on the planet) and most are more like 40+ miles away. I don't have much free time to use the Corvette, so golf road trips allow me to do so a half dozen times a year. If I wasn't playing at those golf outings, I'd probably just be in the office. I envy the people who can use a Corvette as designed on a regular basis, but until I retire somewhere between a decade and score from now, that won't be me.
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I am going to wait until 2024 when my extended warranty expires to make my decision. By then the ME should be out a couple of years, prices stabilize, discounts kick in and I can hopefully read about other people's experiences and any problems that they have encountered with the car. Until then I will keep enjoying my 2017 Stingray.

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Old 07-19-2018, 12:08 PM
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Let's see....Hmmmm... I ordered my 2014 Stingray to keep the cost down to $55K, and I am perfectly satisfied with it.
The ZR1 already costs $130K, so I suspect the mid-engine will be limited production and more expensive.
Except for the "coolness" factor, I just cannot see myself making the leap to pay 3 times what my Stingray cost.
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Originally Posted by gixxerbill
so funny how many of ya'll say you will wait til year 2 or 3 when alot of people including me bought year 1 of the c7. And that year was awesome! the looks I got from driving a car most have not seen before was well worth taking the chance for some warranty work from the dealers.
C6 to C7 was an evolution. C7 to mid engine... totally new car!
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:17 PM
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Not when they first come out.

The usual cycle always features bringing out the base models first, followed by the upgraded (Z51) models and then the further upgraded (GS) models and then the further upgraded (Z06) and then finally, toward the end of the model run, the ultimate ZR1. It's been that way for the C6 and the C7. So, I'm going to wait until at least the 3rd production year to start considering the new C8. I know guys who jumped on the initial 2014 C7 bases model who wished they'd waited until the others had shown up.
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Originally Posted by Deweyox
read up on the Corvair... If you want a Corvair, go ahead. I'm sure the quality with be great NOT. For at least 5 years, I'd stay far far away.
Hmm, be careful, had two Corvairs before I bought my first new car, a '67 Monza. It had every HD option GM offered at the time, like quick steering, HD suspension, sway bar, metallic brakes etc. With the 14 inch wheels and "low profile" Continental 714's (before low profile was a work used) and headers etc, in a moderate speed gymkhana the Corvair was faster than my Grand Sport-or at least it seemed that way!

Now there is a big difference in a low polar moment of inertia mid versus rear engine. It won't have that oversteer! But I have thought GM ultimately would have to go to a mid engine to fit a ~3 Liter high power good mpg engine! The new corporate mpg goals will force it!

Below is a pic without block from a new BMW double overhead cam, 4 valve, dual turbo very efficient engine! Never fit in a front engine Vette!


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Originally Posted by gixxerbill
so funny how many of ya'll say you will wait til year 2 or 3 when alot of people including me bought year 1 of the c7. And that year was awesome! the looks I got from driving a car most have not seen before was well worth taking the chance for some warranty work from the dealers.
I had VIN 1500 for a 2014. I took delivery on 10/1/13. Yes the car got a lot of looks as most people did not know what it was. To my surprise, the 2015 model year had a Z06. So, my guess is that year three will have something above the base. And, the mid is not just a new look and some more horsepower. It will be a totally different car. Whenever people choose to buy, it will be a very new experience.
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Not for car that is still not in a show room!
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Originally Posted by gixxerbill
You sound like an avid golfer and I can appreciate someone passionalte about their hobbies. But just for fun if you have to give up one golf or the vette which would you keep?
With my golf game, no question for me, a C8! I was a bit concerned about the space issue as all 5 of my Vettes have been coupes. Then was reading the August edition of Car & Driver and the ZR1 vs Porsche 911 GT2 RS comparison that showed a cargo volume of 15 cu ft for the ZR1 and 13 for the Porsche. Was surprised the Porsche was than much. BTW C&D had the Porsche winning by reducing their normal points for price. Thought the writers comment was funny, "You can direct outrage to your local congressperson!"

However the Porsche did beat the ZR1 at: 0 to 60 (2.6 to 3.1 sec); 1/4 mile (11.0 vs 10.3 seconds and (131 vs 140 mph)

The only thing that may delay my purchase is it appears the first C8's will have the LT1 or equivalent engine and not a new Ford GT type engine (3.5 Liter, 647 hp twin turbo, 4 valve per cylinder, double overhead cam) that is speculated will be a later C8 option (or something similar.)

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Old 07-19-2018, 01:44 PM
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Im still not convinced on the ME for the corvette. How long has this been a rumor now? My thoughts they will continue to update the C7 platform for a few more years just like they have in the previous generations. Retooling a manufactering facility for a totally new platform isn't cheap to do
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Guys, it's already out. Just look at this ad by a salesman:

https://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/ctd...639361424.html
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Originally Posted by vader86
Never sell, only buy more.

Need room? Build another garage addition. Problem solved.

That said, I wouldn't buy the ME car the first year it came out.

^^^ +1....with this car being a completely different platform, I won't be an early adapter. But if it's awesome, I'll add to the stable. It's difficult to give up my C7 Carbon Fiber Edition Stingray. With everything I've done to this car, it's too cool to part with. Plus, more Carbon Fiber is on the way....stay tuned!
Old 07-19-2018, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by R8Z51
Guys, it's already out. Just look at this ad by a salesman:

https://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/ctd...639361424.html
If that is real...that is a cool freak'n car.
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I'll consider anything.

But it will probably be a very long time off before

I'd ever buy one with an auto transmission. That would kill the deal for me.
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Originally Posted by gixxerbill
If that is real...that is a cool freak'n car.
​​​​​​​If it were real, it would have a VIN #, now wouldn't it??
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Enjoying my 2019 Z06 M7 convertible. No C8 convertible, no M7 would be a deal killer for me. Three other factors would be price, looks, and power.

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Old 07-19-2018, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by R8Z51
Guys, it's already out. Just look at this ad by a salesman:

https://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/ctd...639361424.html


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Originally Posted by gixxerbill
If that is real...that is a cool freak'n car.
I'm sure that's real. I mean...after all, it makes perfect sense that after millions and millions of dollars in development, testing, and covering up the test cars and secrets, GM's PR and Marketing teams put their collective talents together on the perfect launch and decided to have some random dude in Vancouver Canada announce the car on a Craigslist ad!

On second thought, that actually does sound like something the crack marketing team at GM might come up with.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
How could the mid-engine car's handling be 'vastly improved' over a front engine rear drive platform that already smokes most of the world's pricier high zoot mid-engine exotic sports cars NOW?
I've been waiting for someone to say this, because I don't want it to be me. But the current C7 is already a mid engine design. The only difference is the driver sits behind the engine, not in front. The entire engine sits well behind the front axle, the mass is already as close to the center of the car as a "mid" engine car with engine behind the driver is going to get. Whatever benefits of moving the engine behind the driver is only going to be marginal.

1: It'll POSSIBLY be lighter. You remove all the hardware that's necessary to make the engine transmit power to the rear transaxle, like the torque tube and all of its associated hardware.

1.1: Fewer connection and shorter distance between the engine and the drive-wheels mean less drivetrain loss to the wheels.

2: Engine, transmission, and axle now one single piece means car can be design with a tub for passenger compartment, thus increasing structural rigidity without increasing weight.

3: Less mass near front axle means brake bias can be shifted more toward rear to doll out equal share of work to front AND rear brakes.

That's about it as far as the benefit of moving the engine behind the driver. The drawbacks of said move are usually not performance oriented (i.e. significant loss of storage space/trunk space, significantly more difficult to access engine for repairs...etc) not to mention cost. But it's HIGHLY unlikely that a mid engine, with driver in front of engine layout Corvette is going to be light years better than the current C7 in terms of driving and handling dynamic, because they'll have to now start from scratch to perfect the reversed layout where as they've already had decades of development in the current handling formula.


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