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Old 08-25-2018, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostnotes
I know this will pi$$ some people off but Texas has some of the WORST drivers I have ever been around. And I've been around.
Depends on how you look at it.
On many, many occasions I've been part of a spontaneously formed group of three or four cars, that will drive between 95 and 105 heading north on 59. No one gets stupid, no one will be reckless, and if the lead car has to stomp on the brakes or do something else that effects the others, its always for a very good reason. So no one gets pissed, no one flips anyone off or tries to pass in an unsafe way. In fact, there is almost an acknowledgement that a quick lane change, brake check, or other abrupt maneuver done for good reason is a job well done. I've even gotten the thumbs up at 100 for something that would get me the bird at 70.
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Old 08-25-2018, 12:42 PM
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Tough day for those two C7 owners. Just hope no one was injured.
Old 08-25-2018, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by madrob2020
One or both was following proper road course procedures. For a right hand curve/apex, swing wide left to enter. Always hit the inside edge of the apex, if you're not on the curbing you're doing it wrong! Doesn't work very well if someone's running the course from the opposite direction from you (Like on a hwy).
Yeah, but the line between lanes basically represents an off track situation and shouldn't be crossed. Nothing wrong with maximizing the radius of the turn you just have to remember the road is only half as wide as it looks. The inside edge of the apex isn't the inside of the pavement on the curve it is the white paint in the center of the pavement and anything past the edge of the paint on your side of the stripe is off course. If you get two cars crowding that line from opposite sides there still could be contact as the mirrors might hit.

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Old 08-25-2018, 01:43 PM
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I had to go right and jump on the brakes as a dump truck pulling a trailer was all the way in my lane!!!!
Old 08-25-2018, 05:43 PM
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Hope they had track insurance, your typical auto policy will not cover that
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Originally Posted by 449er
Hope they had track insurance, your typical auto policy will not cover that
Do you understand that this occurred on a public road, not a track?
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at some of the comments

drove the Dragon quite a few times as well as Cherahola ....there are places to have fun and places to use your head.....lots can go wrong quickly if you are not 100% paying attention and even then ......
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Originally Posted by 449er
Hope they had track insurance, your typical auto policy will not cover that
Old 08-25-2018, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ricks327
Do you understand that this occurred on a public road, not a track?
My bad
Old 08-25-2018, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jim spitzer
My son and I just did the Cherohala Loop starting at deals gap. The rain stopped him from taking his bike so he drove the vette. The average speed he did was 25mph even at that speed a few of the curves were so tight it would be easy to cross the center line. It was our first time.
Great route. The best part is the TN 360 and Cherohala Skwy sections. Much more enjoyable than The Tail of the Dragon. I’ve done The Tail on my touring Harley probably 20x and only once in my C7. Frankly, it’s underwhelming on 4 wheels. You go for the professional picture opportunity mostly.
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Are there any facts, yet?

Still just a bunch of speculation, as far as I can see.
Old 08-26-2018, 03:09 AM
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Ouchhhh
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Originally Posted by owc6
Are there any facts, yet?

Still just a bunch of speculation, as far as I can see.
Good point, Lisa. Could be two unrelated pictures of wrecked corvettes. You never know if what you see on the internet is for real or not. I googled to see if I could find a story on this and didn't find anything - but that could mean two things - A. It didn't happen or more likely B. I didn't put the right stuff in my searches.

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Some who purchase C7s probably shouldn't, especially if it's their first sportscar.
Reminds me of a friend some years ago who was buying like a 36' Bertram. His plan was to pilot it from Annapolis to St Augustine FL.
I asked if he had a Captain's license or know what he was doing? He said, "well how hard could it be, all I have to do is to head straight off-shore and hang a right".
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Though I have yet to see it when driving the dragon (or the Cherahola) you also have to look out for animals, usually deer. In places where the rock walls won't let them get back into forest they will walk along the road. I've driven a couple different roads like that in PA where at certain times of the year the roadway is scattered with dead deer who cpuldn't find there way off the road.
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Been following these comments & finally decided to look at crash info.http://dragonawareness.com. Very interesting, hosted by Blount County Sheriff Dept..In 2017 in the warm months, Apr-Oct, there were 87 wrecks/43 injuries/1388 tickets given out! In last 11 yrs. 29 fatalities, 28 were motorcycles. Good stuff there.
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Originally Posted by DPC57
Though I have yet to see it when driving the dragon (or the Cherahola) you also have to look out for animals, usually deer. In places where the rock walls won't let them get back into forest they will walk along the road. I've driven a couple different roads like that in PA where at certain times of the year the roadway is scattered with dead deer who cpuldn't find there way off the road.
I've seen pictures of bears in the road at the dragon. I'm sure in a place like that, many critters try to cross the road. As for PA, I lived very near Valley Forge Park, and my daily commute took me around the park perimeter. Many dead deer on the side of Pawlings Road. In the evenings during rutting season it was always a white knuckle experience driving through there. You would see herds of deer grazing roadside and never knew when one would decide to cross the road. Central and Upper Bucks County, as well as around Newtown are also overpopulated with deer, and dead ones littering the road sides. Keeps the vultures busy.
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Old 08-26-2018, 01:43 PM
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Sad. Two wrecked Corvettes and hopefully no major injuries. Like most drivers, I love the twisties, but my biggest fear is always the guy coming at me from the other direction on a blind turn.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Agree, everyone is quick to condemn one of the two drivers of the wrecked C7s, when a 3rd vehicle could have been the culprit by causing evasive action by one of the unlucky ones.
I agree. I was leading a group of 6 Corvettes when I went into blind right hand turn. Half way through the turn I was right on the *** of two bicycle riders. I had to make a split second decision....run over the two bicycle riders or swerve across the yellow line to miss them. I chose swerving, putting my car about 2.5-3 feet into the oncoming lane. Luckily, at that very instant, there was no oncoming traffic, so I didn't hit another Corvette going the opposite direction.

I won't go back to the Dragon. The bicycle riders had just as much right to ride their bikes on the Dragon as I had to drive my Corvette, but they were true idiots to do so. Even with them being idiots, If I had hit them from the rear, it would have been 100% my fault. Not worth the risk.

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