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Old Aug 29, 2018 | 06:55 PM
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If I understand your definition of coast button, it is right in the middle of the Resume and Set buttons. Push it and cruise control is off until you press resume, or set at another speed. So if you press that button between both of those you will be coasting and slowing down.
The rocker switch at the top of that cluster also turns off and back on cruise control. Never understood the reason for two buttons right there that do essentially the same thing. Maybe there's some slight difference between the two. I also never understand why you'd want to turn off the cruise control. I leave my on all the time and occasionally I set CC and utilize its functions. But I never turn it off. I guess the engineers and bean counters would say, off is good because it prevents you from turning on CC accidentally, to which I would respond, if I did happen to turn on cruise control accidentally I would quickly depress the clutch pedal or simply turn it off. IOW not a problem.

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"It's not making sense as to why the same function selections are duplicated by the console selector, and steering wheel switches controlling ride. That's confusing."
The console selector puts you in one of five driving modes as in: economy, weather, tour, sport, and track. That effects your magnetic ride, throttle progression, steering, etc.
The buttons on the steering wheel are for how your driver information center appears, or looks. For Auto, Sport, Tour and Track. Auto will tie you to different display looks in when you are in Sport, Tour and Track. You can change as I stated in an earlier post to default to one those views regardless of what mode you are in. Confused enough? Just kidding.
Exactly, because the same function selections are not duplicated rather there are similarly named functions that are slightly different (**** sets the mode, steering wheel controls set the DIC display).

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
Thanks to my elders here, eboggs and joemessman, I'm willing to try getting familiar with the steering wheel functions on the C7.

I'm new to steering wheel functions every time I drive my various vehicles. My Mercedes Benz, is still a mystery every time I drive it with all it's various functions located on either side of the steering wheel.
The C7's cruise control - I pretty much have got it down, but it doesn't have the 'Coast' function. Every car/truck I've ever owned since 1979 has had the Coast function. Doesn't make sense not to have the button to Coast.
There is no "coast" button. Holding the Set button down decreases the set CC speed. So if you set the CC to say 75 MPH and then you tap the set button it will decrease from 75, 74, 73, etc. on each tap. If you hold the set button down it does what you call coast. The set speed is in the DIC. It appears green when CC is on and white when CC is off. It has "..." if you just started the car and have yet to set a CC speed (though I don't understand why it doesn't just retain your last CC setting.

BTW Tapping and/or holding the Resume button does the same thing but increases the set CC speed. These are handy to fine turn the set CC speed.

It's not making sense as to why the same function selections are duplicated by the console selector, and steering wheel switches controlling ride. That's confusing.
Because they are not the same function. See other posts.

I came to the conclusion of idiots in cubicles writing product usage instructions as being detached from the process. I'm rather certain none of them own C7s.
More "facts not in evidence". You sure to like assuming things as if they are facts.

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
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OK.......thanks for the help Pdiddy.👍

Coast, to me, and all my other than Mercedes' going back to and including my new 1977 C3, should coast as you hold the button in. Then, upon release Sets at that lower speed. The C7, doesn't work that way - it cancels the cruise control.
Actually no it does work that way. It does not cancel the cruise control. Not sure what button you're hitting. Hit and hold the Set button.

Resume, should reinstate your previous speed setting.
It does exactly that.

I'm going to have to re-work the C7 cruise control buttons. Resume, with an M7, may be a disaster recovering the previous speed setting.
It will do exactly what it is programmed to do. If you have the CC set at 70 and your in 1st gear and hit resume, it'll try to wind out 1st gear to 70 MPH.

I'm pensive about using cruise. Yes,, I realize that tapping the brake pedal disables, but doesn't turn Off, the cruise control module.
First, in an M7, it's best if you want to disable cruise because say you're in 1st gear and it's set to 70 MPH, do not hit the brake pedal, hit the clutch. Stomping on the brake pedal would probably surprise anybody driving behind you. Hitting the clutch will also disengage the CC an leave you coasting forward.

And no, neither the clutch nor the brake pedal will turn off CC but CC will not be in effect, rather it'll be on and ready for use.

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Both, my new 1974 Cadillac Sedan DeVille and my new 1977 C3 Corvette had spring loaded push buttons on the middle ends of the turn signal stalks to engage/coast, and reset the cruise control speed, depending on the speed you were traveling at when you activated it by pushing the button. The Cadillac had on On/Off toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel dashboard. The Corvette had only the push button to On/Set the cruise control. Both GM cars' tapping the brake cancelled cruise. In other words - the Corvette's cruise control was a single button. With this button you Set and could Coast the car to a lower speed. To set to a lower speed, hold button in until desired speed is set. Then release. The C7 hasn't any Coast function.

It's got On/Off rocker button, Set button, and Resume button. Way too many buttons, and NO Coast. Tapping the brake pedal cancels the cruise functioning. It does not turn it Off.

Pushing in the clutch during cruise control operation causes high engine revs. LMAO!
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Originally Posted by defaria
The rocker switch at the top of that cluster also turns off and back on cruise control. Never understood the reason for two buttons right there that do essentially the same thing. Maybe there's some slight difference between the two. I also never understand why you'd want to turn off the cruise control. I leave my on all the time and occasionally I set CC and utilize its functions. But I never turn it off. I guess the engineers and bean counters would say, off is good because it prevents you from turning on CC accidentally, to which I would respond, if I did happen to turn on cruise control accidentally I would quickly depress the clutch pedal or simply turn it off. IOW not a problem.



Exactly, because the same function selections are not duplicated rather there are similarly named functions that are slightly different (**** sets the mode, steering wheel controls set the DIC display).
It's just that the one at the top turns it off completely. Set and resume are nonfunctional at that point. The one that is lower and in the middle of resume and set will let you resume, or set a new speed. I never completely turn off cruise control myself.

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The numerous cruise control buttons had to be a Millennial Team Invention. They ALL went home with trophies. Hahaha!

My new C3 with optional cruise control used one hidden, spring loaded button, and worked perfectly.
All those Millennial clowns got a prize-by-commitee trophy, for seeing how decorative and space wasting their project could be! #LOL!

JoeM, did you own many C3s when they were new?
Old Aug 30, 2018 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
The numerous cruise control buttons had to be a Millennial Team Invention. They ALL went home with trophies. Hahaha!

My new C3 with optional cruise control used one hidden, spring loaded button, and worked perfectly.
All those Millennial clowns got a prize-by-commitee trophy, for seeing how decorative and space wasting their project could be! #LOL!

JoeM, did you own many C3s when they were new?
I didn't but my older brother had a 1973. Blue. And Fast! We always shared cars. I got to drive it quite a bit. I had a 1964 Austin-Healey 3000. He preferred that, so I had the C3 most of the time as he preferred the Healey. The Healey was just one big problem, which you probably know. That C3 was trouble free and ended up with 275,000 miles on before we got rid of it in 1997. He drives a Mclaren 570S. That's a pretty good car. My son has a 2018 Z06 Manual. He had to have a special seat made for him as he is a giant. 6'9". I'm going to be upgrading in the near future. Probably a Z06. I was considering a ZR1, but I don't like the front facia. OK, but I'm not going to buy something that has to grow on me if you know what I mean. And I just can't see spending another 40K or so for 105 more HP. It just goes against my grain. I like the Mclaren, but it is just a little to refined for me. I think that is probably how the C8 mid engine may be. And I don't want to buy the first model year anyway. I'm burning for more power. I can't even sleep at night thinking about a Z06. My son left his with me a while back for a few months. I wanted to throw rocks at my Stingray after driving his. But it has been reliable I must say, with 75,000 miles on it. But dang! Punching that Z06 spoiled me.
Old Aug 30, 2018 | 04:10 AM
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I just went out to the garage to listen to XM radio on the Corvette. The cruise control collage/cluster has 4 buttons that do a total of 5 commands. What a waste of buttons and space!
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ONE hidden, out of the way button (as I wrote above) did it ALL on the late '70s Corvettes!
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Old Aug 30, 2018 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by joemessman
It's just that the one at the top turns it off completely. Set and resume are nonfunctional at that point. The one that is lower and in the middle of resume and set will let you resume, or set a new speed. I never completely turn off cruise control myself.
IIRC both buttons do the same thing - turns it off completely.

Besides, what good would the middle button be if it just disengaged the CC? It's far easier to just depress the clutch or tap on the brakes.

What would really be useful is to retain the last CC speed set when the car has been turned of and you turn it back on. I don't really use the CC at say 40 MPH but I often use it when traveling at highway speeds. If this feature were present I'd probably just permanently have CC set at say 75 MPH.
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Originally Posted by defaria
IIRC both buttons do the same thing - turns it off completely.

Besides, what good would the middle button be if it just disengaged the CC? It's far easier to just depress the clutch or tap on the brakes.

What would really be useful is to retain the last CC speed set when the car has been turned of and you turn it back on. I don't really use the CC at say 40 MPH but I often use it when traveling at highway speeds. If this feature were present I'd probably just permanently have CC set at say 75 MPH.
In the airplane business, we used the words "armed" vs "engaged" to describe some of these functions.

If you are driving along in Cruise and push the middle button, it "disengages" the Cruise but Cruise remains "armed" and ready to "engage" if you push the bottom button.
If you push the very top button, then the Cruise is "Off". If you push the very top button again, then Cruise is "armed" but not "engaged".
Can't recall how it's worded in the manual, but GM probably uses a lot of words and still manages to leave everyone confused.
Old Aug 30, 2018 | 10:07 AM
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In the airplane business, we used the words "armed" vs "engaged" to describe some of these functions.

If you are driving along in Cruise and push the middle button, it "disengages" the Cruise but Cruise remains "armed" and ready to "engage" if you push the bottom button.
I will have to check this out but as I said, when I disengage the CC, I usually just use my foot to hit either the clutch or brake.
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Did you bother to read the section about Link to Drive Mode? Apparently not. What you are showing is called Sports Mode. It's active in Tour Mode because Link to Drive Mode is not set. When you set Link to Drive Mode and then go to Tour (or Eco or Weather mode) you'll see the Tour Mode display. When you go to Sport Mode you'll see this mode displayed and when you go to Track Mode you'll see Track Mode displayed. That's what "Link to Drive Mode" means and apparently you have that set.

If instead you turn that off then you can select one "scene" (Tour, Sport or Track) which is displayed in all Drive Modes.

Next time read more thoroughly and do some experimentation. Teaching a man to fish and all...
Why are you like that?

OP, and anyone else interested that doesn't already know, you can set the HUD differently as well. I like having Sport on the instrument panel and Track on the HUD, mainly because I like the shift lights on the HUD.
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Why are you like that?
Because I feel it's right to help a person to help themselves and to admonish them when they fail to make the effort. In the end I feel it leads to more people who make the effort to figure out their own problems and not bother others to do that work for them.

To throw the question right back at cha, why do you feel that that approach is wrong? I fully expect you will not answer that question or go sideways.
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
Both, my new 1974 Cadillac Sedan DeVille and my new 1977 C3 Corvette had spring loaded push buttons on the middle ends of the turn signal stalks to engage/coast, and reset the cruise control speed, depending on the speed you were traveling at when you activated it by pushing the button. The Cadillac had on On/Off toggle switch on the left side of the steering wheel dashboard. The Corvette had only the push button to On/Set the cruise control. Both GM cars' tapping the brake cancelled cruise. In other words - the Corvette's cruise control was a single button. With this button you Set and could Coast the car to a lower speed. To set to a lower speed, hold button in until desired speed is set. Then release. The C7 hasn't any Coast function.

It's got On/Off rocker button, Set button, and Resume button. Way too many buttons, and NO Coast. Tapping the brake pedal cancels the cruise functioning. It does not turn it Off.
If you're cruising along at a set speed and you want to "coast down", you have 2 very easy solutions. One, tap the brake to disengage the cruise and the car will coast down, as soon as you hit the speed you want, simply push the set button again. Or, you can keep hitting the set button for each mph you want to drop your speedd. It's not a difficult thing, so why are you making such a big deal out of it? It sounds to me like the C7 really isn't the car for you, as you just don't understand how it works at all, in any aspect.

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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
In the airplane business, we used the words "armed" vs "engaged" to describe some of these functions.

If you are driving along in Cruise and push the middle button, it "disengages" the Cruise but Cruise remains "armed" and ready to "engage" if you push the bottom button.
If you push the very top button, then the Cruise is "Off". If you push the very top button again, then Cruise is "armed" but not "engaged".
Can't recall how it's worded in the manual, but GM probably uses a lot of words and still manages to leave everyone confused.
GearheadJim,
That's exactly what is different from all other cars I've owned. The C7 doesn't have a Coast button that re-engages cruise once you release the button. You have to push another button to re-engage the cruise. Phenomenally stupid engineering.

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The re-engagement aspect of setting the cc at current speed from Coasting, doesn't exist on the C7, cc functions. Resume? Yes. But the problem there is then figuring out your speed and which gear you're in. It's geared, if you will, for automatic transmission usage, not manual transmission C7s. If you can't comprehend how the single button cc of the C3s, was far superior to the C7's 5 function buttons, keep trying!

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GearheadJim,
That's exactly what is different from all other cars I've owned. The C7 doesn't have a Coast button that re-engages cruise once you release the button. You have to push another button to re-engage the cruise. Phenomenally stupid engineering.
It's not stupid engineering at all, you're just too stupid to figure out how to use it.

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It's not stupid engineering at all, you're just too stupid to figure out how to use it.
Show us your proof that it's superior then? You sound rather stupid making claims about engineering or ergonomics.
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Show us your proof that it's superior then? You sound rather stupid making claims about engineering or ergonomics.
Every time you post you just prove how stupid you are...
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Originally Posted by Patman
Every time you post you just prove how stupid you are...
Every time you make unsubstantiated claims you just prove how stupid you are.



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