Cheaper is a joke. Right?

 

There is no such thing as a PF64E oil filter. Are you sure you're not referring to the PF63E? I would never run a longer filter on these cars, the stock filter already sits flush with the oil pan so if you go longer you're just asking for trouble, it would not longer be protected from road debris.

 

Read here about the "E core" filters. I changed the oil on my Tahoe last week and used an E core. I have to say it was light and flimsy and generally felt sh*tty and cheap. I'm going back to Wix or Baldwin next time, IMO the best filters on the market.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...E-Core_filters.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/...1937&showall=1

 

 

 

 

Because oil filters bursting is a common thing?

 

Why not just use the same PF64 filter that came on it and call it a day, is saving $2 that important?

 

Supposedly the most important factor on the filter is the bypass spring which I believe I recall as requiring 22 psi. for our cars. Others are too low & allow too much oil to bypass the filter material. JMHO

 

The 2017 GM TSB on vette oil filters. Takeaway is "use an oil filter with an internal bypass valve opening pressure specification of 150 kPa or 22 PSI" (or give GM an excuse to void repairs to your engine under warranty)

Spin-on Oil Filter Replacement

 

My reason for using the OEM filter is for warrantee reasons. As others have said it has the correct bypass spring and I never saw a report about a filer bursting! Have you looked at the oil pressure is a C7? it's controlled by a computer and is lower than old Vettes or my C6!

The main reason is early in the C7 intro a reputable car mag had and engine fail in a test. GM said it was caused by a failed oil filter.

Now the odds of a filter causing a failure are low BUT not zero. (See side bar below.) If the AC PF64 fails and causes and engine failure GM would have no choice but to fix the engine. If other than the OEM recommended filter is used the manufacturer will no doubt replace the filter BUT no more!

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When I changed oil in my C6 made a PDF of the process. Posted a pic on the Forum. One of my product managers. who also had a C6, came into my office and said did you not read on the Forum that the Fram filter (which I used) failed and caused a Vette engine to fail! That was true. On the next oil change I used the suggested AC filter, made another pic! Showed him I made the change and he laughed. But he was only a EEE (that's an EE with a Masters-so what did he know abut mechanical stuff!)

Now don't get me wrong I use a Fram filer on the 502 cid Chevy BB in my ProStreet Rod. It's the only one I found that would fit with my long tube Sanderson headers in my '34! Frankly changing oil per the OLM, which is at min one per year, IMO all filters are just fine.

 

Does this really have to be talked about. Just follow the manual. I'm not sure it can be dumbed down any more. If you want to experiment be my guest, but don't come back here crying and blaming GM for a subpar product. Kinda like the guy that was just cruising along and his clutch exploded.

 

Well, I would use a new one at every oil change; just to make that clear.

 

JerryU,

The OLM is patently unreliable. If it were accurate, then why does my C7's meter register close to 50% oil life remaining, when the oil has been in the crankcase over 24 months? Someone messed up claiming that oil goes bad on Day #366, from fill date.... Mine's headed towards 800 days at present!

 

This is curious, Joe.

The OLM doesn't track oil quality, it is an algorithm that takes into account driving style, trip lengths, milage, time, conditions and such.

If your car hasn't had an oil change in over two years, and yet still reads 50%, then your OLM is either faulty, or you have reset the OLM. Either way, you need an oil change in order to not void your warranty (regardless of whether the oil may stay "good" for however many miles you may or may not put on your car). If it's faulty, then let them fix it, if it's not (and it was reset), then you (by the OM) should change it within 3000 miles of the last oil change (don't blame me, I'm just the messenger).

Them's the rules you bought your car under (for GM warranty).

Disregard them at your own risk.

 

Yes, of course change the oil filter with every oil change, but just use the PF64 that GM specifies.
No need to gamble on anything else.

 

My guess from your past comments that oil can last 24,000 miles is - you reset it!

Or just like my 1988, 1993, 2008, 2014 and my 2017 Vette Owner's Manual states, "change at a maximum of one year!" That is unless most drives are under 4 miles then the OLM will probably say about what my 1993 Owner's Manual stated when it didn't have an OLM: Change oil and filter at 3000 miles OR 3 MONTHS WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST! Ah yes starting blowby and never getting the oil hot!

Or yours is broke!

 

It's impossible for the C7's oil life meter to still be above 0% if it's gone more than one year since the last reset, so your dealer reset it back to 100% when they sold it to you.

Oil doesn't go bad on day 366, but GM wants the oil changed on a yearly basis in order to satisfy the warranty. If you want to go more than one year between oil changes that's your problem if you ever need to make a warranty claim on the engine, as it will be denied.