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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 12:15 AM
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Specific question for CA residents or anybody knowledgeable with emissions testing. I've just bought a 2015 c7 outside of CA. Do I need to do smog test in order to register the car? Or is it exempt because of the newer model year?

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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 12:30 AM
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Might depend on the county you live in. Start here: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...smogfaq#BM2535
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 01:06 AM
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Specific question for CA residents or anybody knowledgeable with emissions testing. I've just bought a 2015 c7 outside of CA. Do I need to do smog test in order to register the car? Or is it exempt because of the newer model year?
I read a horror story last year on the forum about a person living in California buying a car from a New Jersey resident but the car did not have the 50 state emission compliance tags in the engine bay. As a result he could not register the car in the state of CA. I never heard any more about this guy but he painted a gloomy picture. Did you check and see if you car has the CA emission EPA tag?
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Originally Posted by velocityopen6
Specific question for CA residents or anybody knowledgeable with emissions testing. I've just bought a 2015 c7 outside of CA. Do I need to do smog test in order to register the car? Or is it exempt because of the newer model year?
Yes, you're going to have to do a smog test. I just bought a 2018 C7 with 1500 miles on it from another state and I still had to do a smog test.

MMD is right though, make sure your car is 50 state legal before purchase (I think all corvettes are 50 state legal). There should be a sticker on the passenger side of the hood.

I imported a mustang last year, and I was shocked that many mustangs are still not 50 state legal. The loophole there is that any car you're importing doesn't have to be 50 state legal if it has over 7500 miles (verify that number).

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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 02:31 AM
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Less than 7500 miles on the car it needs to have Ca Emissions sticker on the hood. Yes, you will need an entry emissions test.


The fella that had the problem bought a car with an aftermarket hood and this sticker was not removed from the stock hood and put on the aftermarket hood. He did get a new sticker from GM and has gotten the car registered.

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As posted, you'll need to have a smog check to register the car.
Grab your wallet for the fee... Don't be surprised to see a $500 registration bill, including Moonbeam's new "environmental tax" calculated on the value of the car...(My '17 Stingray's 2019 tab is $587, my buddy's '17 Z51 is $685)
The "good" news is that Commiefornia allows a six year period from the initial year of manufacture without smog checks, but confiscates a SMOG ABATEMENT FEE of $20 in lieu of the smog check in addition to the other fees.

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well hopefully you guys can be brought into compliance with the rest of the country soon but it looks as though CA will fight it.. If I were GM or another car company I probably would not make a CA compliant car, after a couple years they would have to walk everywhere

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/art...s-13128243.php
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Originally Posted by cowboy casey
well hopefully you guys can be brought into compliance with the rest of the country soon but it looks as though CA will fight it.. If I were GM or another car company I probably would not make a CA compliant car, after a couple years they would have to walk everywhere

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/art...s-13128243.php
With the mileage tax proposal, taxing you on the amount of miles driven, you might be walking in CA anyway
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Yes, depending on your county all cars brought in from outside the state must have a smog test and a vin verification, then you get to pay your fees! Even a brand new corvette bought out of state and brought into Cali by you must be smogged and vin verified!
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If the car is more than 1 year old and has at least 7500 miles the car does not have to have an "approved" emissions sticker on it. The car must be able to pass a smog test. The emissions sticker is for new cars brought into cali with less than 7500 miles and newer than 1 year old.
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To elaborate on passing a smog test - that doesn't mean it only has to pass the sniffer. It has to pass a visual inspection too. EG if it has headers on it they will have to be CARB approved and you need the sticker.
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The actual fact is that all cars manufactured in the past 5 years or so have an emissions sticker that states both Federal and California emissions. It may be longer than that. In 2012 I bought a 4200 mile 2008 Z06 that had been ordered and delivered and registered in Texas from a Texan. I flew out, bought the car and drove it back. Arriving back with 6400 miles on the car. I got my smog and went to AAA to register the car and the main thing the agent had to certify and see was that the underhood emissions sticker said California. As I had researched this requirement I knew it did and had no problem. So simply make certain any out of state low mileage car you are buying to import to Californa has an emissions sticker than includes the Ca emissions label. So the 50 state Corvettes since at least 08 have both listed on their underhood stickers.
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 12:12 PM
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The actual fact is that all cars manufactured in the past 5 years or so have an emissions sticker that states both Federal and California emissions. It may be longer than that. In 2012 I bought a 4200 mile 2008 Z06 that had been ordered and delivered and registered in Texas from a Texan. I flew out, bought the car and drove it back. Arriving back with 6400 miles on the car. I got my smog and went to AAA to register the car and the main thing the agent had to certify and see was that the underhood emissions sticker said California. As I had researched this requirement I knew it did and had no problem. So simply make certain any out of state low mileage car you are buying to import to Californa has an emissions sticker than includes the Ca emissions label. So the 50 state Corvettes since at least 08 have both listed on their underhood stickers.
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pkincy
The actual fact is that all cars manufactured in the past 5 years or so have an emissions sticker that states both Federal and California emissions. It may be longer than that. In 2012 I bought a 4200 mile 2008 Z06 that had been ordered and delivered and registered in Texas from a Texan. I flew out, bought the car and drove it back. Arriving back with 6400 miles on the car. I got my smog and went to AAA to register the car and the main thing the agent had to certify and see was that the underhood emissions sticker said California. As I had researched this requirement I knew it did and had no problem. So simply make certain any out of state low mileage car you are buying to import to Californa has an emissions sticker than includes the Ca emissions label. So the 50 state Corvettes since at least 08 have both listed on their underhood stickers.
I have brought in multiple cars new and used from out of state. GM charges a fee for the 50 state compliance sticker. Volume dealers all shell out the $20 bucks or so extra for it. Smaller dealers don’t always do that. I have not been able to bring in brand new 2016 cars because the dealer did not order the car with the Ca sticker. The best part is the smog is exactly the same. Just different stickers and the CA one costs a bit more. At least as of a couple years ago.
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Our province finally discontinued it's smog check program. They finally realized it had no environmental benefit given new car emissions have changed substantially over the past 15 years. All it did was add cost and inconvenience.
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I bought a car in AZ 6 years ago and had to get it smog'd...but here is the hot tip: If you pay sales tax on the car in which you bought the car (usually occurs when buying from a dealer) you don't have to pay tax again in CA. So be careful about that.
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Originally Posted by IAIA
I bought a car in AZ 6 years ago and had to get it smog'd...but here is the hot tip: If you pay sales tax on the car in which you bought the car (usually occurs when buying from a dealer) you don't have to pay tax again in CA. So be careful about that.
Only if the tax you paid is greater than what you would have paid in CA. If CA tax is higher then you will have to pay the difference to CA.
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Only if the tax you paid is greater than what you would have paid in CA. If CA tax is higher then you will have to pay the difference to CA.
There is a one year statute of limitations on that I believe. You could theoretically buy the car in Oregon for no sales tax, store the car out of California for a year and then register it in California if you have a home there after one year. You should be able to avoid sales tax. .
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Originally Posted by ptalar
There is a one year statute of limitations on that I believe. You could theoretically buy the car in Oregon for no sales tax, store the car out of California for a year and then register it in California if you have a home there after one year. You should be able to avoid sales tax. .
That brings up an intersting wrinkle in the story..
I bought a 2011 Mustang in Las Vegas and several months later brought it into Commiefornia and registered it. I had to prove I had paid the sales tax in NV, or else it would have been added to the tab...
Unsure how a "no tax" Oregon purchase would be received... Why do I think their initial response would be "PAY US THE SALES TAX"?
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 10:34 AM
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I purchased my 2017 new from McMulkin in NH and had it shipped. Car has 50 state emission sticker. CA required a smog test, which it failed. Seems it can take up to 1000 miles for a new GM vehicle to get all systems ready. CA has an emissions "Referee" system so took the car there and received a waiver on the emissions test. As jimmbbo said CA will collect unpaid sales tax when registering if not paid in other states, as does KY and many other states.


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