Recent experience with Range and battery drain
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Recent experience with Range and battery drain
Hey, just wanted to share a recent experience with I had with a Range and battery drain. I'm running Range devices in three vehicles right now, and really like the way they work. I have one in our CT6, left the country for two weeks, and the battery was dead upon our return. We've let the CT6 sit for this long a couple of times with no issue - but that was before I installed a new Range (the most current model) about 2 months ago. I thought they had the current draw issue fixed, but maybe not? It's not a C7, but I know many of us are using them in our vettes (I have one in our C7 too) so I wanted to share what I experienced. I jumped the CT6, started right up and charged well and no issues since, so I'm guessing it was almost certainly the Range. Not an issue really, as it's easy to remove it when the car will sit for a bit and just plug it back in when I'm using the car again.
Wishing you each a great rest of the week, Paul
Wishing you each a great rest of the week, Paul
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How old was the CT6’s battery? I wonder if it might have died even without the Range plugged in.
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I have one in my 2016 Silverado and it drained my battery, too. I bought a simple switch and now instead of pulling the Range out when I leave the truck I just turn the switch off. Works great.
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Thanks in advance!
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I wondered the same thing, but..............the car isn't quite 2 years old - this doesn't mean the battery couldn't go bad but.............I just got back late last night from another trip and the car sat outside at the airport in below freezing temps for 4 days and cranked right up no problem (it was in our heated garage while we were away for 2 weeks). I left the Range unplugged while away on the 4 day trip. Not entirely conclusive, but it sure points to the Range. Thanks, Paul
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This is what I used from Amazon for my 2016 Z06 when I first bought it because that earlier version of the Range would sometimes cause a communications fault at startup. I would start the vehicle and then switch the Range on but the same switched OBD II cable works well for shutting off the Range module entirely when parking for a long period of time.
https://www.amazon.com/Tonsiki-Femal.../dp/B00UR5XBMW
https://www.amazon.com/Tonsiki-Femal.../dp/B00UR5XBMW
So having this switch is easier that just removing the device (when the car will not be used for a while)?
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BTW, mine isn't a daily driver so I do keep it on life support while it's at rest. So, I can't say one way or another if the Range (new version) causes a drain on my battery.
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Use a switch. Less wear and tear on the OBD socket and the Range prongs.
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* Does it matter if you start the car first before turning the switch on?
* Does it matter if you turn the switch off prior to shutting the car off?
* In other words, does the order of any of this matter.
These questions may seem trivial, but with the electronics on these cars, and the way certain things happen at start up, I just want to check. Thanks!
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I don't think order matters anymore. With the old unit, you needed to turn it on after starting the car because otherwise it might create a communications failure between the ECM and TCM locking the transmission into protective mode since it could no longer communicate with the engine to request power reduction when needed. With the current version I turn it on prior to starting the vehicle but if you wait to turn it on until after starting give the car a few seconds because there is a lot of initialization going on during the first few seconds as modules wake up and report in so I wouldn't add to the communications chatter.
I would shut it off after engine shutdown.
But I don't think you are going to run into any issues with the current version regardless of sequencing. My original version worked flawlessly as long as I turned it on after startup but with the current version it really doesn't care. Unless you won't be driving the car for several days just leave it on because parasitic drain is far less with the current version compared to the original which woke up near constantly looking for activity on the bus.
I would shut it off after engine shutdown.
But I don't think you are going to run into any issues with the current version regardless of sequencing. My original version worked flawlessly as long as I turned it on after startup but with the current version it really doesn't care. Unless you won't be driving the car for several days just leave it on because parasitic drain is far less with the current version compared to the original which woke up near constantly looking for activity on the bus.
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Good point on switch made by several. For those who use a switch:
* Does it matter if you start the car first before turning the switch on?
* Does it matter if you turn the switch off prior to shutting the car off?
* In other words, does the order of any of this matter.
These questions may seem trivial, but with the electronics on these cars, and the way certain things happen at start up, I just want to check. Thanks!
* Does it matter if you start the car first before turning the switch on?
* Does it matter if you turn the switch off prior to shutting the car off?
* In other words, does the order of any of this matter.
These questions may seem trivial, but with the electronics on these cars, and the way certain things happen at start up, I just want to check. Thanks!
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Range Current Draw
I have a Range Technology V 8.6 on my 2015 C7. Using a clamp on current meter I read 18-21 mA current with the engine on or off.
Yes that will run down a well charged car battery, but it is going to take a while.
Yes that will run down a well charged car battery, but it is going to take a while.
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Maybe those that are still having trouble with the range should reach out to them and find out if this is normal when used in a vehicle other than a Corvette , maybe it's something as simple as a software upgrade which they do for free
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Good point on switch made by several. For those who use a switch:
* Does it matter if you start the car first before turning the switch on?
* Does it matter if you turn the switch off prior to shutting the car off?
* In other words, does the order of any of this matter.
These questions may seem trivial, but with the electronics on these cars, and the way certain things happen at start up, I just want to check. Thanks!
* Does it matter if you start the car first before turning the switch on?
* Does it matter if you turn the switch off prior to shutting the car off?
* In other words, does the order of any of this matter.
These questions may seem trivial, but with the electronics on these cars, and the way certain things happen at start up, I just want to check. Thanks!
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#18
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You mentioned yours is new but you didn't mention the version number. Might be good to verify that it actually has the current version on it for your car. When you turn the key on the LEDs flash the version number. You have to count the flashes.
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We also can't discount the fact that there are many systems in these new cars that constantly wake up from time to time for various reasons
Gone are the good old days of shutting your car off and it's really "Shut Off" My 1970 Chevelle would sit for weeks on end and crank right up. I bet if I left my AMG sit for weeks I would have the same issue as we are discussing here but because it's my wife's daily .......
Dave