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My neighbor passed away a few weeks ago, and his widow wants to sell me his 15 base 1lt 7speed vette. It has 13k miles and I know he babied his vette. I know the Z51 and GS has e-lsd, but does the base have mechanical lsd? If not, are there any aftermarket lsd for C7?
My neighbor passed away a few weeks ago, and his widow wants to sell me his 15 base 1lt 7speed vette. It has 13k miles and I know he babied his vette. I know the Z51 and GS has e-lsd, but does the base have mechanical lsd? If not, are there any aftermarket lsd for C7?
Yep base car has positraction just like cars in the 1960's-all mechanical! Big difference is the Z51, Grand Sport and Z06 has what is called eLSD. That is electronically controlled "limited slip."
Big difference as the eLSD is electronically controlled and has two clutch packs on either side of the dif. A ~3000 psi electric motor driven hydraulic pump activates each clutch pack as defined by a computer and sensors. I recall in 2014 it was said they would love to have eLSD in the C7R but not allowed by rule!
It's the same stacked clutch plates and "sloppy" spur gears that lock up the spinning wheel. It has been used since the 1960's. Have the same in my Street Rod! Thought that helical gear dif was mostly aftermarket!
For those that want to know how a standard poisi works- see below:
Ignorance is bliss. But after the video above - OMG what have i done! Computer- controlled 3000psi pumps pushing hydraulic fluid through RUBBER hoses and gasketed joiners! Computer located under the car.
Sounds like a scary story they used to tell us kids around the campfire:
One of the more unique features of 1965-1998 Rolls-Royce motorcars is the hydraulic system. The hydraulic system powers the brakes and the rear suspension’s height control. These systems are legendary for their complexity and potential for bank-breaking repair costs.
Hmn, and the base model Stingray still has the 50 year old 100% mechanical positraction lsd that nobody has ever heard a peep from.
Mrs. GM, please don't abolish the GMEPP until i get my 84 monther!
Last edited by SilverGhost; Apr 29, 2019 at 02:10 AM.
Hmn, and the base model Stingray still has the 50 year old 100% mechanical positraction lsd that nobody has ever heard a peep from.
Mrs. GM, please don't abolish the GMEPP until i get my 84 monther!
Hmm no noise with 50+ year old purely mechanical Posi? Not True. My C6 was making a noise and GM replaced the dif fluid as clutch plates caused chatter (noise) in a turn. (Same in my Street Rod that I had to put in friction additive.) Recall many years ago to get Posi to work properly for drag racing had to add a clutch and steel plate or 2! Depends on the fit of those "sloppy" spider gears. Must have special friction modifier lub that allows the clutches to slip or they make noise going around corers!
Hmm, if worried about rubber hydraulic hoses, think about those on your brakes going to calipers. If one of those fail you're SOL! BTW Parker 100R2 "rubber looking" hose has min burst strength of 4,500 psi!
eLSD does much more than an old posi, it alters amount of slip in high speed, high "g" turn to help achieve increased stability. You have a gauge (assuming you have eLSD) that shows percentages. If you can figure out what it is displaying and why you're better than me! Read the Tadge post on those gauge numbers where he had an engineer tell you how it works and what it's reading! Even I had to read very slowly and at the end decided not to look at the values!
Yep some folks are better NOT knowing what's happening! Take the length of a crack allowed in an aluminum air frame component before it needs repair!
The standard differentials are notorious for being low on lubrication as delivered. Ever hear of the "warble" sound ? Do a search. That is why Coughlin Chevrolet in Pataskala checks EVERY diff for fluid level as part of their PDI for every Corvette ! They are not doing it because there bored.
Last edited by 7thgeneration; Apr 29, 2019 at 07:42 AM.
All I see is a very expensive system that I will never need or want. Unless the track is your game you don't need it either.
eLSD is probably as important for the less skilled driver when a deer, 18-wheeler tire tread etc suddenly appears in the road! It's NOT just when Tracking (nor is the Z51, why ~50% order. In 2020 it was ~70%!)
Perhaps one of the best Z-51 features is eLSD versus the 1960's Positraction in the Base C8. For those interspersed in understanding, this is the FULL Executive Corvette Chief Engineer's long Forum post. He had the engineer in charge of developing the complex software present most of the info. It's in the appendix and I summarized in the front. You'll also find links to video's re standard Postreaction and how ~6 named differently work and their limitations: http://netwelding.com/eLSD_VS_Posi.pdf
Unlike the 1960's Positraction that ONLY works when one wheel is slipping, eLSD operates and provides stability ALL THE TIME! This display was available for early C8 Z51s.