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The ESP has less of the good stuff (metals) correct?
I like the good old 0W 40 Euro
The Euro version has too much sulfated ash (1.34%) compared to 0.8% for the ESP Formula 0w40. That extra level of SA will contribute to higher levels of intake valve deposits, so it's really not an oil you want to run long term in the LT1 or LT4 (or any other direct injected engine you might own)
The Euro version has too much sulfated ash (1.34%) compared to 0.8% for the ESP Formula 0w40. That extra level of SA will contribute to higher levels of intake valve deposits, so it's really not an oil you want to run long term in the LT1 or LT4 (or any other direct injected engine you might own)
The Euro version has too much sulfated ash (1.34%) compared to 0.8% for the ESP Formula 0w40. That extra level of SA will contribute to higher levels of intake valve deposits, so it's really not an oil you want to run long term in the LT1 or LT4 (or any other direct injected engine you might own)
Not quite correct. The higher sulfated ash can possibly contribute to slightly quicker deterioration of a diesel particulate filter or catalytic converter over an extremely long period of time. Many manufacturers still use the Euro version 0w40 as a factory recommended oil with direct injected engines, Porsche is an example.
You will very likely not ever notice a difference or see any problems substituting the euro 0w40 for the ESP version.
My '18 Owners Manual and the engine oil-filler plug both say to use 5W-30. A GM retroactive change of heart doesn't motivate me to worry about oil, much less the size containers 0W-40 comes in. When I see empirically derived data that show significant benefits for street driving, I'll get concerned... about both.
My '18 Owners Manual and the engine oil-filler plug both say to use 5W-30. A GM retroactive change of heart doesn't motivate me to worry about oil, much less the size containers 0W-40 comes in. When I see empirically derived data that show significant benefits for street driving, I'll get concerned... about both.
“Street driving” is the key. The expense/inconvenience of changing oil for the occasional track day then changing back is where the GM approved 0-40 stuff will be of benefit. I don’t see any reason for it to be so pricy and hope it comes down a bit before my next change.
“Street driving” is the key. The expense/inconvenience of changing oil for the occasional track day then changing back is where the GM approved 0-40 stuff will be of benefit. I don’t see any reason for it to be so pricy and hope it comes down a bit before my next change.
Pricy?
Dodge recommends 0-40 Pennzoil for it's 6.4L Hemi.
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Originally Posted by VNAMVET
Pricy?
Dodge recommends 0-40 Pennzoil for it's 6.4L Hemi.
Also the recommended oil for the 6.2L supercharged hemi in the Hellcat. I get 8qts plus an SRT filter off ebay for around $80 shipped for my Charger HC..
Last edited by Tally Ho; Jun 28, 2019 at 02:34 PM.
Summit Racing has Mobil 1 0W-40 ESP for sale in quart bottles. 6 bottles for $49.95 with a $12.00 rebate from Mobil. I bought two 6-bottle packs for $99.90 with a $24.00 rebate from Mobil (Z51, so I need 10 quarts - I know it only takes 9.5 quarts but I haven't found anybody to sell it in 1/2 quart bottles). So, if my math is correct, that's around $6.32 per quart. With free shipping. Hard to beat deal.
I switched from the 5w-30 ESP dexos2 to the 0w-40 ESP dexos2 in my 2017 GS because it's supposed to provide slightly better better cold start protection. That's important to me because I store my GS over the winter months however I may take it out on a chilly day if it's dry-sunny
and streets are free from road chemicals. Besides considering how infrequently C7 oil needs to be changed the cost between the 5w-30 and 0w-40 isn't that significant.
