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To be honest on Ceramic coating, YES it was worth it! 2017 had the paint correction done and the detail shop did the wheels/brake calipers and the leather interior at cost of the material. Had it done in the fall just before hibernation back in 2017. Dust and bugs just rinse right off without heavy cleaning, chrome wheels also easy cleaning.
I am a detailer and work on exotics and performance cars almost daily. I also just purchased a C7 that I am currently paint correcting and will ceramic coat here shortly. Coatings can definitely be worth the money as long as you know that there is maintenance involved. No more taking your freshly coated car to automatic car washes and you will want to wash your car regularly. These things will help keep the coating lasting as long as possible and the hydrophobic properties intact.
The cost of a coating is usually because of the prep. Paint correcting can be very time consuming and so important when it comes to ceramic coating your car.
Most people don't realize that a wax typically only gives you 2-4 weeks of protection while a good ceramic coating can last 3-5 years (if maintained properly).
[QUOTE=SGM Snake;1604990586]Ok. I’m going to jump in here.
I’m a recent first time 2017 GS CE buyer. I got the car from a dealer in Texas. It was a one owner car.
How can or could I tell if the car has been coated?[/QUOTE
When you wash the car you will see the water bead and almost fall off the panels. Now that could also be a very hydrophobic sealant etc. but it will mean there is some sort of protection on the car.
I am not a huge fan of ceramic coatings as I personally don't like coatings that last years and I think that some people get the impression they are more bullet proof than they really are.
I prefer a good sealant. That way, if there's any correction that needs to happen, it's easier to deal with and reseal than when there is a ceramic coating on the car.
If a car is a weekend toy, always garaged, always hand washed properly, a ceramic just isn't necessary.
I am not a huge fan of ceramic coatings as I personally don't like coatings that last years and I think that some people get the impression they are more bullet proof than they really are.
I prefer a good sealant. That way, if there's any correction that needs to happen, it's easier to deal with and reseal than when there is a ceramic coating on the car.
If a car is a weekend toy, always garaged, always hand washed properly, a ceramic just isn't necessary.
I'm with you. Sealants are the sweet spot and good ones can last 6-12 months. The hydrophobic properties are just as good in my opinion in addition to everything you've stated.
Wolfgang sealant has been great on all my cars (and family). If the Paint is in good condition, there's no reason why it can't maintain this level of gloss and detail.
2006 Audi A6 about2 years ago before I sold it. 2021 5k Miles 2013 CX-9 100k Miles. In-Laws Volvo with 150k miles. 2015 17k Miles.
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^^^^ Wolfgang's deep gloss sealant is my absolute favorite! I actually like a lot of their products.
I also have collected quite a few Ammo NYC products. Love them both! I have used Ammo's older version of sealant (Reflex I think it's called?). It worked well also, but Wolfgang's is cheaper, just as easy to apply and works nearly as well.
I believe WOLFGANG Automotive Products are a Private Label brand (like COSTCO "SIGNATURE" for example)
owned by Palm Beach Motoring aka AUTOGEEK......
WOLFGANG products (and probably GRIOTS's Garage) are Mfg either by by a Blending Company with their own
Chemists & Formulas.....or WOLFGANG could be buying 55 Gal Drums of Product directly from XYZ Company
and then packaging into their own bottles.........
What does it matter if the product is OK and YOU like it ...........Nothing
If a car is a weekend toy, always garaged, always hand washed properly, a ceramic just isn't necessary.
I'm in this camp. First, start with a good base...that'd be a proper paint correction to remove the swirls and unevenness. Either do it yourself if you're inclined, or pay a quality shop to do it. From there, a good sealant along with proper maintenance in between and proper washing methods and your car will look good. It's not the fact that ceramic coatings work...they do. It's the value proposition that doesn't convince me. I've had two vehicles professionally paint corrected, one was ceramic coated and the other was sealed. Both looked great after and both looked great a year after. The prices most shops charge for ceramic coating is just more than I'm willing to spend.
I believe WOLFGANG Automotive Products are a Private Label brand (like COSTCO "SIGNATURE" for example)
owned by Palm Beach Motoring aka AUTOGEEK......
WOLFGANG products (and probably GRIOTS's Garage) are Mfg either by by a Blending Company with their own
Chemists & Formulas.....or WOLFGANG could be buying 55 Gal Drums of Product directly from XYZ Company
and then packaging into their own bottles.........
What does it matter if the product is OK and YOU like it ...........Nothing
Not sure what the point of your post is here. If all products performed the same, then videos like what Chicago Auto Pros did using like 50 different sealants would all show similar results. That was definitely not the case. In fact, some of the more expensive products performed the worst (Dr Beasley's).
I assume you don't detail your own vehicles or you would know this and would also have your favorites. It's not like I'm a rep or something. I've used several products and when something works well, I buy and recommend it.
So I ask....what does it matter if a product comes from XYZ company and is bottled as another label if it works well? If you can tell me what else Wolfgang's Deep Glass Sealant is labeled and sold as, please let me know as I'd be happy to buy the same product under another label if it's less expensive. But since you aren't even sure this is the case, I won't be holding my breath.
I believe WOLFGANG Automotive Products are a Private Label brand (like COSTCO "SIGNATURE" for example)
owned by Palm Beach Motoring aka AUTOGEEK......
WOLFGANG products (and probably GRIOTS's Garage) are Mfg either by by a Blending Company with their own
Chemists & Formulas.....or WOLFGANG could be buying 55 Gal Drums of Product directly from XYZ Company
and then packaging into their own bottles.........
What does it matter if the product is OK and YOU like it ...........Nothing
Originally Posted by ZedConn
Not sure what the point of your post is here. If all products performed the same, then videos like what Chicago Auto Pros did using like 50 different sealants would all show similar results. That was definitely not the case. In fact, some of the more expensive products performed the worst (Dr Beasley's).
I assume you don't detail your own vehicles or you would know this and would also have your favorites. It's not like I'm a rep or something. I've used several products and when something works well, I buy and recommend it.
So I ask....what does it matter if a product comes from XYZ company and is bottled as another label if it works well? If you can tell me what else Wolfgang's Deep Glass Sealant is labeled and sold as, please let me know as I'd be happy to buy the same product under another label if it's less expensive. But since you aren't even sure this is the case, I won't be holding my breath.
If you have no skin in the game why are you getting upset ?
He's not saying they're all the same. And plenty of companies buy their stuff from someone else, re-package, and re-price. What's the big deal if the one you like is done that way ?
You're "asking" a question he already answered. He even ended with "What does it matter if the product is OK and YOU like it ...........Nothing"
But let me ask since I'm already typing. Serious question. What is the difference between a paint "sealant" that needs to be re-applied every 6-12 months and a good wax job every 6-12 months ?
If you have no skin in the game why are you getting upset ?
He's not saying they're all the same. And plenty of companies buy their stuff from someone else, re-package, and re-price. What's the big deal if the one you like is done that way ?
You're "asking" a question he already answered. He even ended with "What does it matter if the product is OK and YOU like it ...........Nothing"
But let me ask since I'm already typing. Serious question. What is the difference between a paint "sealant" that needs to be re-applied every 6-12 months and a good wax job every 6-12 months ?
TIA
To be honest, I was a little lost with CamaroJoes response as well.
To answer your question, a sealant actually bonds with the paint whereas wax just sit on top, so there's a better level of protection with sealants. Waxes will generally only last 4-8 weeks.
To be honest, I was a little lost with CamaroJoes response as well.
To answer your question, a sealant actually bonds with the paint whereas wax just sit on top, so there's a better level of protection with sealants. Waxes will generally only last 4-8 weeks.
Thanks. That's helpful.
But a good waxing only lasts a couple of months ? Didn't realize that.
If you have no skin in the game why are you getting upset ?
He's not saying they're all the same. And plenty of companies buy their stuff from someone else, re-package, and re-price. What's the big deal if the one you like is done that way ?
You're "asking" a question he already answered. He even ended with "What does it matter if the product is OK and YOU like it ...........Nothing"
But let me ask since I'm already typing. Serious question. What is the difference between a paint "sealant" that needs to be re-applied every 6-12 months and a good wax job every 6-12 months ?
TIA
When words like "I believe" are used, it implies doubt. Please reread Camaro's words...
Again...not sure what his point in his post. And if I had any skin in the game, I would have thrown out my preferred products in my first post instead of following behind someone else's who mentions the product I happen to like.
When words like "I believe" are used, it implies doubt. Please reread Camaro's words...
Again...not sure what his point in his post. And if I had any skin in the game, I would have thrown out my preferred products in my first post instead of following behind someone else's who mentions the product I happen to like.
Thanks but I know what "I believe" means.
And I didn't suggest you DID have skin in the game. And neither did HE.
He was expanding on a product previously mentioned and simply gave an example of re-badging/re-branding a product and ended with "What does it matter if the product is OK and YOU like it ...........Nothing"
You didn't understand the point of HIS post ? OK, so what ? Why post as if he was accusing you of something ? Frankly, I didn't understand the point of your (apparently defensive) post.
And I didn't suggest you DID have skin in the game. And neither did HE.
He was expanding on a product previously mentioned and simply gave an example of re-badging/re-branding a product and ended with "What does it matter if the product is OK and YOU like it ...........Nothing"
You didn't understand the point of HIS post ? OK, so what ? Why post as if he was accusing you of something ? Frankly, I didn't understand the point of your (apparently defensive) post.
Oh well.
You are right. I was assuming his comment was directed toward me and my comments about Wolfgang. I probably read into it too much.
I still stand by my feelings about the product though. Rebranded or not...it's good stuff! 🤣
