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Old May 27, 2020 | 01:42 PM
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I know there are many threads on this, but in particular, I just want to know how much has changed in the A8 from 2015? I had a Z51 A8 which was lemoned because of the A8. Back in the market, but want to know if things have changed since then for 2019. Considering a Z06 A8.
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Old May 27, 2020 | 02:02 PM
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I'll let others who know more chime in...but I think between a RANGE device (that disables AFM) and the Triple Flush (Service Bulletin) - you can pretty much negate most if not all risk of the shudder.
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^^^ Agreed 100%

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Old May 27, 2020 | 02:24 PM
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yes the new fluid which came out I think came out in feb of last year should fix the shudder. Keep the auto in manual mode and do not have to worry about V4 mode or get the device other have mentioned. The main reason I went with the manual was because the shifts using paddles was to slow for what I was use to and expected. My trade for the C7 was a PDK car.
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Originally Posted by dave_2012_tt
yes the new fluid which came out I think came out in feb of last year should fix the shudder. Keep the auto in manual mode and do not have to worry about V4 mode or get the device other have mentioned. The main reason I went with the manual was because the shifts using paddles was to slow for what I was use to and expected. My trade for the C7 was a PDK car.
So this is only on 2019 or was it fixed for the 2018 model?
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Old May 27, 2020 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jmoses52
So this is only on 2019 or was it fixed for the 2018 model?
If prior to 2/19 build, you would have to ask for the triple flush and the new fluid to be added. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

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Originally Posted by golddog
If prior to 2/19 build, you would have to ask for the triple flush and the new fluid to be added. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
It effects the 19 model year also. GM made the oil switch at the factory sometime in February 2019.
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Old May 27, 2020 | 05:22 PM
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Some A8s had problems, certainly not all...have friends with '15 A8s with more than 80K trouble free miles. I'm confident enough in the A8 that I traded my '15 with MN7 (96K+ miles) for a '19 A8....
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The new programming and upgrades on the 19 Z06 make it an absolute joy to drive. If the car you're buying is built before Feb 1 2019, you drive it a bit and drive to a dealer you trust and say you notice a shudder. That's all, GM requires nothing else. They will triple flush your system and fill it up with the new blue label Mobil1. The latest TSB id March 30, 2020, but the date and fluid mandate did not change. Post Feb 1 2019 build does not require anything.
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Since the introduction of the new fluid in 2019, the number of new threads complaining about the shudder problem have dropped dramatically. That's a great indicator that the flush with the new fluid must be working.
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Old May 27, 2020 | 10:38 PM
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My 2019 with A8 is 300 times better than my 2015 and 200 times better than my 2017. My 2019 is close to flawless.
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My 2019 GS A8 has been great since the weather warmed up. I have the Range device in it since the 80 mile mark or so before I got it only had it in manual mode.

Here in the northeast when I took it out below 50 degrees the first shift from first to second was always a bit wonky. Since the weather has been 50+ the last couple weeks that seems to have gone away.

The shift at redline in track mode is unbelievably smooth. Way smoother than both my DCTs.
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Old May 27, 2020 | 11:00 PM
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You guys with 19s are checking on your build dates right? 19 production started early, so lots of 19s built pre Feb 1 2019
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Yup, my build date was June 2019.

I’ll add that I was a freak about following the manual instruction of not cruising in any gear for too long. Most of my 500 breakin miles were on the freeway and constantly flipping through the gears.

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You guys with 19s are checking on your build dates right? 19 production started early, so lots of 19s built pre Feb 1 2019

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Old May 28, 2020 | 10:34 AM
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My 2019 A8 Grand Sport, 5000 miles, built April 2019. On the first start of the day, the 1st to 2nd shift is very Clunky,rough, feels kinda like it has a 1 second miss or something. After that first shift it gets better and after 2nd or 3rd shift completly gone, Rest of the starts that day are all good. Is this the shudder or is this something else. I live in South Florida, cold is not the issue for sure. Any thoughts?
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Old May 28, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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I had a 2016 A8 on a car built end of Oct 2015 and never had a single issue with the transmission. Rear end and "warble", yes. But nothing transmission related.
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Old May 28, 2020 | 02:42 PM
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I know it's not what you asked, but if still genuinely that concerned after all these years, get an M7 and never give it another thought... ever!
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Welll... I am not even going to say my 19 A8 GS is kicking *** at 19K, but I won’t because **** happens when I celebrate I went thru the T/C issue on my 16 from shudder to full replacement was 2 days !! With a loaner and a dealer that knows/cares what they are doing ..mine was not the horror story that I have heard others have reported. The trick is to know the tell tale signs Shudder , erratic RPM’s that are disconnected from what your foot is asking ...slam dunk

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Originally Posted by PDQ;[url=tel:1601578965
1601578965[/url]]My 2019 A8 Grand Sport, 5000 miles, built April 2019. On the first start of the day, the 1st to 2nd shift is very Clunky,rough, feels kinda like it has a 1 second miss or something. After that first shift it gets better and after 2nd or 3rd shift completly gone, Rest of the starts that day are all good. Is this the shudder or is this something else. I live in South Florida, cold is not the issue for sure. Any thoughts?
OK this is so strange, I had a 2017 GS that would have a very rough shift from 1st to 2nd first thing in the morning then it would be fine after that. My 2019 built in January of 2018 2nd week of 2019 production shifts flawlessly without that 1 to two jerk. Your car should have the second generation trans fluid in it that is supposed
to eliminate the jerk. Still mine shifts proper with even the older fluid. I have never had a rough shift with my car like I did with the earlier ones I had.
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Originally Posted by MagicGlass
OK this is so strange, I had a 2017 GS that would have a very rough shift from 1st to 2nd first thing in the morning then it would be fine after that. My 2019 built in January of 2018 2nd week of 2019 production shifts flawlessly without that 1 to two jerk. Your car should have the second generation trans fluid in it that is supposed
to eliminate the jerk. Still mine shifts proper with even the older fluid. I have never had a rough shift with my car like I did with the earlier ones I had.
Thank you so much for the response. Hopefully, others will be familiar and advise the solution. thanks again. PDQ
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