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My 2019 Grand Sport come with summer only michelin track tiers I am so not a track person. With this being said I was thinking about swapping them out for the Michelin all weather Pilot Sport A/S 3+. Ive heard that they were a lot quieter give better gas milage and provide a smoother "touring" ride. Any advice would be helpfull
Your car doesn't look like it has the Cup 2s, the pilot super sports are not track tires, they are perfectly fine on the street, but they are summer tires so avoid cold weather.
That being said you can certainly switch to the all seasons, many people have who drive in cooler weather but not snow.
I put the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ ZP tires on my 2015 Z51 coupe, and they ride better, quieter, and handle perfectly.
I will now be able to drive the Vette well into the cold weather in OH!
Are you talking about "run flats" Vs. NON run flats? If you are, I highly recommend the MIchelin All Season non run-flat tires....they are MUCH quieter, and longer lasting. Plenty of grip if lap times are not what you are seeking.
I have the Michelin A/S 3+ ZP tires on my ‘14. So far I like them a lot. If they are available in GS sizes, they would be a good choice.
They are available for GS and I am going to put them on my 2019 DD when needed even though I live in Florida for the ride, handling in the rain and mostly the mileage. Hear a lot of good things about them .
I put the Michelin A/S 3+ ZP’s on my ‘19 Grand Sport a couple of months ago and love them. I don’t track my car but like to drive twisting back roads. The grip level is fine for my style of driving. I haven’t really noticed any change in gas mileage, although I don’t usually check my mileage anyway. The ride seems to be a little smoother than the OE Pilot Super Sports.
Convinced me! I went with the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ ZPs on mine - just ordered them to go with my new rims to replace my 4 bent stockers...costly month for me, brothers and sisters!!
I'm anxious to see how these handle compared to the stock tires...but I don't track it so I am sure they will be fine.
When comparing tires with similar miles, I don't find our AS3+ runflats on our Z51 mag ride to be noticeably smoother or quieter than the factory PSS runflats, except for the PSS throwing fine gravel against the underside of the car on some streets. I have both sets and switch out every Spring/Fall, so I get to do the comparison twice each year. But...
The AS3+ take the worry out of cold weather and are also better in rain. As a side benefit, the combination of their longer life and lower cost will mean that your tire cost-per-mile will be about half of the PSS.
You should consider a non-run flat tire option. I just installed a set of Continental Extreme Contact on my 19 GS. I have about 500 miles on these and I am impressed. Road noise reduction is very significant, no more Ackerman effect, no more pebbles being tossed against the side of the vehicle. I know this is not a popular opinion here on the CF. However, there are shortcomings to owning run flat tires. A J.D. Power study found that "customers with vehicles equipped with run-flat tires are nearly twice as likely as those with vehicles equipped with conventional tires to have to replace a tire due to a flat or blowout (yes, Run Flat can and do blowout). Run flats cost more, don't last as long as non RFs, they're noisier, weight more, and result is greater fuel consumption than do non RFs. Also, if you do blowout a RF tire while on the road you will be faced with the same issues as would a non RFs equipped vehicle. There is a chance you would not be able to install a T-link hook bridle (needed by a tow truck driver) under the frame of the vehicle should a front tire blow out. Then all you can do is cross your fingers the tow truck driver can get your vehicle loaded on his truck without damage. There's a lot to consider when you decide what tire you want to purchase when your OEM tires are ready for replacement. Do your research before you make your decision. Consider all your options and contingencies should you unfortunately have a flat.
You should consider a non-run flat tire option. I just installed a set of Continental Extreme Contact on my 19 GS. I have about 500 miles on these and I am impressed. Road noise reduction is very significant, no more Ackerman effect, no more pebbles being tossed against the side of the vehicle. I know this is not a popular opinion here on the CF. However, there are shortcomings to owning run flat tires. A J.D. Power study found that "customers with vehicles equipped with run-flat tires are nearly twice as likely as those with vehicles equipped with conventional tires to have to replace a tire due to a flat or blowout (yes, Run Flat can and do blowout). Run flats cost more, don't last as long as non RFs, they're noisier, weight more, and result is greater fuel consumption than do non RFs. Also, if you do blowout a RF tire while on the road you will be faced with the same issues as would a non RFs equipped vehicle. There is a chance you would not be able to install a T-link hook bridle (needed by a tow truck driver) under the frame of the vehicle should a front tire blow out. Then all you can do is cross your fingers the tow truck driver can get your vehicle loaded on his truck without damage. There's a lot to consider when you decide what tire you want to purchase when your OEM tires are ready for replacement. Do your research before you make your decision. Consider all your options and contingencies should you unfortunately have a flat.
My guess is that it would be easier to access the underside of the car with an airless run flat tire than with an airless non-run flat. My understand is that the rules for repairing run flats are not as liberal as non-run flats, so that is probably why they have to be replaced more often. You are correct that it's a good idea to consider all your options. There are disadvantages to run flat tires. The advantages become obvious when you are miles from help with an airless tire.
If you buy the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ in the run flat version there is no discernible difference in noise and ride comfort compared to the non run flat version of this specific tire. I have had and tested both versions.
I'm on my second set of A/S 3+ tires; got 47K out of the first set and Yes, they are Non-Run Flats. I have two Z51's in my garage; one with OEM rubber and the other with the 3+ Non flat tires and YES, there is a difference (in ride and noise) when jumping from one car to the other! Is it a deafening or bone jarring difference, note at all but there is a noticeable difference when first starting out. If you have a fat tire car (GS or Z), you are starting out with more noise and stiffer ride than a Base or Z51 car just because you have more rubber in contact with the ground.
Bottom line, the 3+'s are a great road tire in all weather conditions but you will give up some grip if you tend to use the "Happy Foot".....but normal driving, you will not notice any loss of grip.
My guess is that it would be easier to access the underside of the car with an airless run flat tire than with an airless non-run flat. My understand is that the rules for repairing run flats are not as liberal as non-run flats, so that is probably why they have to be replaced more often. You are correct that it's a good idea to consider all your options. There are disadvantages to run flat tires. The advantages become obvious when you are miles from help with an airless tire.
You can barely tell if a runflat is flat by looking at it, so getting under the car should be much easier. Here's a pic of the flat right-rear runflat on our C6. The car had a big trunk full of luggage, almost full gas, and my wife siting in the passenger seat when the picture was taken.
I am not aware that runflats get replaced more often, but it it's true, I suspect the reason is that people keep driving on the flat until it's convenient to stop, instead of stopping right now like you need to do with a standard tire.
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