Negative Toe value for aggressive street setup
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Negative Toe value for aggressive street setup
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Hey so Im trying to figure out the best alignment for aggressive street driving, since ive owned sports cars ive always had a little bit toe in. to help with stability.
DSC however recommends a negative .05mm suspension setup.
https://www.dscsport.com/wp-content/...-alignment.pdf
Is this not weird/counterintuitive?
Has anyone here tried this suspension setup?
Hey so Im trying to figure out the best alignment for aggressive street driving, since ive owned sports cars ive always had a little bit toe in. to help with stability.
DSC however recommends a negative .05mm suspension setup.
https://www.dscsport.com/wp-content/...-alignment.pdf
Is this not weird/counterintuitive?
Has anyone here tried this suspension setup?
Last edited by Adir Hassid; Aug 3, 2020 at 11:27 PM. Reason: title
Drifting
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Toe out usually makes turn-in more aggressive at the expense of stability. I can’t speak for the track but for the street I find the turn-in to be pretty sharp as delivered from the factory.
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I wouldn't even call what the factory does an "alignment" ALL these cars need a proper alignment. They are worse than terrible.
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Low speed quick turn in like Auto-X; use toe out
High speed stability like open road course; use slight toe in.
Take your pick, can't have both unless you want to be buying tires all the time. As I tell my students; a good driver can get the best out of any car by driving within the parameters of what it (the car) has to offer......a not so good driver throws buckets of money at the problem to compensate for lack of ability.
Enjoy the ride.
High speed stability like open road course; use slight toe in.
Take your pick, can't have both unless you want to be buying tires all the time. As I tell my students; a good driver can get the best out of any car by driving within the parameters of what it (the car) has to offer......a not so good driver throws buckets of money at the problem to compensate for lack of ability.
Enjoy the ride.
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I haven't tried the "street/occasional track" DSC alignment, but the combination of their negative camber and toe out sounds like it would eat the inside edges of the tires rather quickly.
Anyone with experience?
On our Z51, I run about -.7 camber and very slight toe-in.
If I do a lot of highway cruising, that wears the inner edges slightly.
If I do a lot of canyon carving and autocross, that wears the outer edges.
My tire wear tells me if I'm having too much fun, or not enough...
Anyone with experience?
On our Z51, I run about -.7 camber and very slight toe-in.
If I do a lot of highway cruising, that wears the inner edges slightly.
If I do a lot of canyon carving and autocross, that wears the outer edges.
My tire wear tells me if I'm having too much fun, or not enough...
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Hey so Im trying to figure out the best alignment for aggressive street driving, since ive owned sports cars ive always had a little bit toe in. to help with stability.
DSC however recommends a negative .05mm suspension setup.
https://www.dscsport.com/wp-content/...-alignment.pdf
Is this not weird/counterintuitive?
Has anyone here tried this suspension setup?
Hey so Im trying to figure out the best alignment for aggressive street driving, since ive owned sports cars ive always had a little bit toe in. to help with stability.
DSC however recommends a negative .05mm suspension setup.
https://www.dscsport.com/wp-content/...-alignment.pdf
Is this not weird/counterintuitive?
Has anyone here tried this suspension setup?
However, their website currently recommends that toe settings with the stock toe link should now be +1.7 mm while the aftermarket toe link settings remain at +1.5 mm.
Here are the latest DSC Alignment Recommendations:
Now that is as clear as mud study away.
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Still a mite more camber than I use. The word track does not enter my conversation. Long interstate driving and city driving is my bag of worms. Small toe in and as close to 0 camber as I get get it adjusted. Makes my tires give me more miles.
-2.0 on Camber is strong in my eyes but I'm sure it goes even higher with the hard racing crew.
Elmer
-2.0 on Camber is strong in my eyes but I'm sure it goes even higher with the hard racing crew.
Elmer
