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Old Nov 28, 2020 | 10:05 AM
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I'm in Athens Ga.. area and was hunting someone in the Athens, Atlanta, Gainesville area to do a correct 4 wheel alignment on a 2019 Grand Sport.
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Any good alignment shop can pull up the Chevy specs for camber/caster/toe/etc, and set them to almost anything you prefer, if they work at it.
You need to decide if you want to go only for max tire life, or max cornering grip, or something in between. That will affect mostly your camber.
Max tire life usually means 0 camber, and the GS/Z06 may not be able to get to 0 without producing undesirable toe changes in the rear. Our local dealer gets as close as possible to 0 rear camber while keeping toe ok, then sets the same camber on the front wheels. There are also aftermarket parts you can buy that will allow setting the rear to 0 camber and 0 toe.

Be aware that the C7 is one of the very few cars with adjustable rear caster, and most people working on the car either don't know, or don't care. Including many dealers.
A normal alignment machine can't measure rear caster, it requires some special tools to measure and set. The numbers must be hand-written onto the final readings sheet.

Our local dealer didn't have the tools when we bought our 2017 Z51, but they knew about the procedure and immediately bought the tools when I asked for the rear caster to be checked.

Good luck!

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Hey Bryan, I live in Smyrna....and drive to Norcross JUST for alignment. Solo Motorsports. Multiple locations for Solo but I only hit the one in Norcross. The one alignment guy there is solid and will make sure you get what you want...his name if Vegas. Make sure to call in advance and make an appointment. I'd aim for being the first one of the day. He worked on my car for several hours to get it right. There was a Porsche after me...which clearly ran late. So, make sure you're the first. We were jacking around with my rear caster (using the tool I bought on here) which added to the time.

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Old Nov 28, 2020 | 11:16 PM
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Hey Bryan, I live in Smyrna....and drive to Norcross JUST for alignment. Solo Motorsports. Multiple locations for Solo but I only hit the one in Norcross. The one alignment guy there is solid and will make sure you get what you want...his name if Vegas. Make sure to call in advance and make an appointment. I'd aim for being the first one of the day. He worked on my car for several hours to get it right. There was a Porsche after me...which clearly ran late. So, make sure you're the first. We were jacking around with my rear caster (using the tool I bought on here) which added to the time.
Thank You!!! So does he have all the tools to do it?
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Not for the rear caster. I bought the aftermarket rear caster tool on here from Redliner99. Do a quick search on here for rear caster tool.
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Old Nov 28, 2020 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepSRT+C7
Not for the rear caster. I bought the aftermarket rear caster tool on here from Redliner99. Do a quick search on here for rear caster tool.
OK!!!! Thank You!!!!!
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Here is recommended spec's from DSC(PDF File attached) & GM:


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Are you asking for alignment specs or a shop?

If specs, what are you using it for? GM's recommended track specs are horrible.

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Originally Posted by Gucci Minh
Are you asking for alignment specs or a shop?

If specs, what are you using it for? GM's recommended track specs are horrible.
Was wanting to find someone to do it btu if I don't i'll do it myself. It's mostly gonna be a street car
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This is the caster tool + a angle gauge !



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Could start calling local dealers or high end independent alignment shops to see who has the required rear caster tool. If they have the tool, then check their reputation. Chances are decent that if they have the tool, they probably know what they are doing.
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To measure rear caster you need to have the adapter shown in the post above and a magnetic angle gauge. A saw blade angle gauge will work. It is best if the mechanic doing the job follows the same procedure GM has developed for using their gauge except changed due to gauge differences. Following the procedure (attached) will get the gauge zero'd and oriented correctly from side to side.

One thing about rear caster is DSC recommends a setting of +0.7 degrees. Jim Mero the GM Corvette Test Driver and Suspension Engineer recommends 0.0 degrees like the GM spec indicates. Jim is retired and a member of this forum now. He also says it should be 0.0 on each side.

One other thing. If using DSC's rear caster setting with the track alignment you will find that the rear toe is hard to set because you run out of adjustment range with the stock toe links. With the 0.0 degree setting the stock toe links have a sufficient adjustment range.

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LOVE that PDF info Bill.

DSC alignment also says only -1.5 camber for the rears...whereas our manuals say -2.0. I'm guessing that whatever magic the DSC does, it does it better with those recommendations. I recently installed the DSC. I'm driving Road Atlanta this weekend with DSC's specs. Next track days, I'll use the GM versions...see if it makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
To measure rear caster you need to have the adapter shown in the post above and a magnetic angle gauge. A saw blade angle gauge will work. It is best if the mechanic doing the job follows the same procedure GM has developed for using their gauge except changed due to gauge differences. Following the procedure (attached) will get the gauge zero'd and oriented correctly from side to side.

One thing about rear caster is DSC recommends a setting of +0.7 degrees. Jim Mero the GM Corvette Test Driver and Suspension Engineer recommends 0.0 degrees like the GM spec indicates. Jim is retired and a member of this forum now. He also says it should be 0.0 on each side.

One other thing. If using DSC's rear caster setting with the track alignment you will find that the rear toe is hard to set because you run out of adjustment range with the stock toe links. With the 0.0 degree setting the stock toe links have a sufficient adjustment range.

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That's interesting, +0.7 degrees would have such insignificant impact on a non-steering wheel for 99.9% of people/track application. I wonder why DSC chose to do that.
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Originally Posted by JeepSRT+C7
LOVE that PDF info Bill.

DSC alignment also says only -1.5 camber for the rears...whereas our manuals say -2.0. I'm guessing that whatever magic the DSC does, it does it better with those recommendations. I recently installed the DSC. I'm driving Road Atlanta this weekend with DSC's specs. Next track days, I'll use the GM versions...see if it makes a difference.
My car is dual duty with a track bias but if it's useful for you, I logged some pyro data at VIR and found that I'm pretty close to being at an optimal set it and forget it alignment for dual use.

Front Caster: +8.0
Front Camber: -2.8 degrees
Front Toe: 0

Rear Caster: 0
Rear Camber: -1.8 degrees
Rear Toe: In 0.1 (total)

Changing front camber to -3.0 degrees before Sebring.

GM/DSC specs are extremely mild and you'll eat those front tires up if you're going hard. Definitely more street biased. They're stealing so much potential lateral grip from those fat tires.

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