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Old Jan 16, 2021 | 08:19 PM
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This may be a dumb question, but if you have the vented leather seats, are you not suppose to put conditioner on it to keep the holes from plugging up?
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Old Jan 16, 2021 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by johnfin
This may be a dumb question, but if you have the vented leather seats, are you not suppose to put conditioner on it to keep the holes from plugging up?
There are liquid conditioners made for vented seats. No paste conditioners should be used or you will be very busy using a toothpick.
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Old Jan 16, 2021 | 09:38 PM
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A damp microfiber towel will work just fine
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Old Jan 16, 2021 | 09:48 PM
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Why use damp towel. Water will just evaporate? GM is recommending leather conditioners for all their vehicles now. See for yourself:
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The Great Conditioner Debate will live on for eternity.
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Old Jan 16, 2021 | 10:23 PM
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I think GM answered this debate. The bigger debate on the forum is what oil people use.
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Old Jan 16, 2021 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 919cw313
The Great Conditioner Debate will live on for eternity.
No question.

Amusingly, in this context, after addressing cleaning for COVID, the first thing the Service Bulletin states is:

"General Motors recommends cleaning as directed in the Owner’s Manual with mild soap and water, for most all interior surfaces."

The Bulletin then goes on to address the use of its specialty cleaning products to remove ~ 35 called out specific stains such as lipstick, shoe polish, ink, etc.

And the Great Debate will live on . . .
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Old Jan 16, 2021 | 11:08 PM
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I read the bulletin and there is no conflict. The first paragrah discusses disinfecting surfaces. Then in "Notes" it says to "clean" with mild soap. Your reference to stains pertains to cleaning carpet stains. Also the C7 Owner's manual indicates a mild soap can be used on all leather surfaces. They caution not to oversaturate the leather surface and wipe off excess. In addition leather cleaner products and conditioners are sold by Chevrolet to clean and condition all leather surface. Seem very consistent to me. No debate if you follow GM's advice.
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This is one of the things which makes it amusing. GM has sold its cleaning products for years. Yet the manual makes no reference to them and does not recommend their use, instead stating:

"Use a soft microfiber cloth
dampened with water to remove
dust and loose dirt. For a more
thorough cleaning, use a soft
microfiber cloth dampened with a
mild soap solution."

GM's directives are often a hoot.

As always, read what you like and use whatever makes sense to you. The debate will continue no matter what any of us individually conclude.
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Good information in the thread. Nice to know that Gm has a leather conditioner/restorer available.
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^ Yeah, and conditions vinyl too! Whatever that means.
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I read somewhere on this forum that they put a thin plastic preservative on the C7 leather so it does not do any good to try and apply conditioner and that is why they suggest mild soap.

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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Elk
This is one of the things which makes it amusing. GM has sold its cleaning products for years. Yet the manual makes no reference to them and does not recommend their use, instead stating:

"Use a soft microfiber cloth
dampened with water to remove
dust and loose dirt. For a more
thorough cleaning, use a soft
microfiber cloth dampened with a
mild soap solution."

GM's directives are often a hoot.

As always, read what you like and use whatever makes sense to you. The debate will continue no matter what any of us individually conclude.
You are misinterpreting what GM recommends regarding this topic. It is a bit of a stretch to believe the absence of endorsing its products in the Owner's manual cannot be interpreted as "not recommend their use" as you stated.. The 2020 GM Service Bulletin had a similar Service Bulletin published in 2018 and made the same recommendations for leather care. Apparently you had never read these Bulletins. My local Chevy dealer has these products available for purchase in their parts department. So then, where is GM "not recommending" their products not be used, and if they recommend not to use their products why do they sell them in their parts department? It is clear to me that GM has been crystal clear regarding this topic since at least 2018.

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So the question I have always had, regarding the 'stuff' that is applied over leather at the factory, does this wear thin or out over time? If so you are all correct, water and mild soap (if necessary) when new and leather cleaner / conditioner after the coatings have faded away.
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 08:18 AM
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I use the Chemical Brothers Leather Conditioner. No issues with the vented seats and the smell is awesome.

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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shakinrock
So the question I have always had, regarding the 'stuff' that is applied over leather at the factory, does this wear thin or out over time? If so you are all correct, water and mild soap (if necessary) when new and leather cleaner / conditioner after the coatings have faded away.
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This is a question for Mary Barra for sure. Send your inquiry to Mary by sending her an email --> marybarra@gm.com
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 09:35 AM
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If only the C7 had a 4LT option with fine Corinthian leather. I would invest in leather treatment for that.
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Originally Posted by MMD
. . . where is GM "not recommending" their products not be used . . .
You are arguing with yourself. This is not what I wrote, especially the double negative.

I stated "Yet the manual makes no reference to them and does not recommend their use." Expressed another way, there is nothing in the owners' manual which recommends using GM's products.

Instead the manual directs us to "[u]se a soft microfiber cloth dampened with water" or "[a soft microfiber cloth dampened with a mild soap solution." <-- N.B. no mention of a GM product.

Again, read what you like and use whatever you are drawn to. The debate will continue no matter what, which is probably healthy.


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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Elk

......" Expressed another way, there is nothing in the owners' manual which recommends using GM's products."


You still don't get it. Your belief is flawed. GM not explicitly stating to use a product can NOT be interrupted as "not recommending" their products be used.

The leather debate has been over ever since GM put in writing (2018) what they actually recommend for all GM passenger vehicles.
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I'm sorry, MMD, you are arguing just to argue and apparently deliberately misrepresenting what I wrote.

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