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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 08:56 AM
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I've been on the search for a 2016 or newer Stingray Z51. I've found a really nice very low mileage 2016 Black on Black but it's a 1LT. The two things I want the most from the 2LT are the front camera and 10 speakers with the sub. Does anyone know if these are things that can be added? I'm trying to stay away from anything aftermarket. I've owned 3 C5"s and 1 C6 and the front camera is very important to me.

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This isn't directly an answer to your question. But if you get the 2lt you'll never wonder if you should've just gotten the 1lt. The same cannot be said for the other way around. I got the 2lt and have 0 regrets.
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This isn't directly an answer to your question. But if you get the 2lt you'll never wonder if you should've just gotten the 1lt. The same cannot be said for the other way around. I got the 2lt and have 0 regrets.
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 09:28 AM
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Since most of the car and it’s numerous electronic functions are controlled by the
computers, I doubt these items can be added.
You may find a stereo shop to try to upgrade the sound, but, it would be daunting to integrate
the controls to the steering wheel and console display.
A camera may be added, but, it will probably require it’s own display mounted in the car.
If you could find anyone to do it, the costs will exceed what a 2LT car would cost you.
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 09:37 AM
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I’ve owned all three levels and currently drive a 1LT Grand Sport because in this case my budget allowed for a GS or options (but not both). I wanted the wide body, and don’t regret that.

With that being said get the 2LT, it’s the best option for 90% and you should not consider adding the 2LT options to a 1LT car. It’s possible, but not realistic.


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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 09:38 AM
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Z-71?? I think you might want a Z51. The Z71 package is something on a 4x4 Silverado truck. Might make for a rough ride in a Corvette.
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A Z51 honestly isn't necessarily if you aren't going to track the car. The dry-sump oil system will help keep the engine lubricated during sustained high-speed cornering & the bigger brakes are better on a track. For most people, though, the "standard" Stingray is more than good enough.


That being said, my girlfriend owns a 2019 Stingray with the 1LT trim and I own a 2017 Stingray with the 2LT. The 2LT is well worth the cost...although a 1LT isn't a stripper by any stretch. I ordered mine equipped just how I wanted it, while she bought hers new off the lot. She did pay a lot less than I did, though, so it's all good.

The heads-up display, front camera, heated/ventilated seats and two "memory" buttons for seat & mirror settings are nice features you get with the 2LT - but are not things you cannot live without. As I said above, a 1LT is still well-equipped for a "base" car. The stereo is marginally better in the 2LT, but few people will notice a difference. The 2LT has little emblems on the headrests of the seats, but they're no big deal. My car had a cargo net that hers lacked, but she bought a better one on-line afterwards.

If we could have my car with her color, that would be a great morph of the perfect Corvette! We definitely like the manual transmission better - although the automatic can outshift any human. No need to even think of using the paddle shifters at all.

2017 Stingray 2LT -- Torch Red, NPP Exhaust, 7spd manual, non-Z51 car.

2019 Stingray 1LT -- Elkhart Lake Blue, NPP Exhaust, 8spd automatic, non-Z51 car.



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Originally Posted by Curtens
This isn't directly an answer to your question. But if you get the 2lt you'll never wonder if you should've just gotten the 1lt. The same cannot be said for the other way around. I got the 2lt and have 0 regrets.
^^^^^^THIS ^^^^^^

Two requirements for me , 2LT and NPP

As far as adding things ... yes you can add a front camera with Navi tool and you also can add a SUB but ... in my opinion they both will not work as well and as seamless as the factory installed

Before buying my C7 I bought a really clean 2011 1LT C6 and spent my time with it adding 2LT and Z51 stuff , adding power passenger seat , sway bars, brakes, Navigation , HUD ... and I could go on ... in hindsight while I enjoyed the heck out of the car I should have just found a 2LT or better

Find a 2LT and don't look back

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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 10:01 AM
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As I mentioned recently in another thread, the 1LT probably is the way to go for a new car as it will likely lose less of its value to depreciation--and will cost less to begin with. None of the features of 2LT are actually "must-have" items in my opinion, thought they are "nice to have."

In a used C7 where someone else has taken the hit for depreciation, 2LT is probably the sweet spot.

But don't let others convince you to second guess whatever decision you make. These are all very nice cars.

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Originally Posted by fsvoboda
As I mentioned recently in another thread, the 1LT probably is the way to go for a new car as it will likely lose less of its value to depreciation--and will cost less to begin with. None of the features of 2LT are actually "must-have" items in my opinion, thought they are "nice to have."

In a used C7 where someone else has taken the hit for depreciation, 2LT is probably the sweet spot.

But don't let others convince you to second guess whatever decision you make. These are all very nice cars.

So not true, go on Car Gurus or Kelly blue book and compare what a 2lt was new against what 1LT was .. then look at what trade in value is between the two .. then look at selling prices , then come back and tell us the results.... I am six sigma trained, show me the data , not the outliers , the one off example, show me the "mean" results

I think you will see why I am posting this reply .....

It all comes down to , does he want the nice to haves, is he planning on keeping it as if he is not then it will limit the available buyers to those that are ok with a 1LT

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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 10:22 AM
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I'm recommending the 2LT as it has the things I wanted and I'd probably be wasting bucks trying to add all those things on a 1LT. I'm enjoying mine tremendously each and every day. Take care and good luck!
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JK 23112
Z-71?? I think you might want a Z51. The Z71 package is something on a 4x4 Silverado truck. Might make for a rough ride in a Corvette.
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A Z51 honestly isn't necessarily if you aren't going to track the car. The dry-sump oil system will help keep the engine lubricated during sustained high-speed cornering & the bigger brakes are better on a track. For most people, though, the "standard" Stingray is more than good enough.


That being said, my girlfriend owns a 2019 Stingray with the 1LT trim and I own a 2017 Stingray with the 2LT. The 2LT is well worth the cost...although a 1LT isn't a stripper by any stretch. I ordered mine equipped just how I wanted it, while she bought hers new off the lot. She did pay a lot less than I did, though, so it's all good.

The heads-up display, front camera, heated/ventilated seats and two "memory" buttons for seat & mirror settings are nice features you get with the 2LT - but are not things you cannot live without. As I said above, a 1LT is still well-equipped for a "base" car. The stereo is marginally better in the 2LT, but few people will notice a difference. The 2LT has little emblems on the headrests of the seats, but they're no big deal. My car had a cargo net that hers lacked, but she bought a better one on-line afterwards.

If we could have my car with her color, that would be a great morph of the perfect Corvette! We definitely like the manual transmission better - although the automatic can outshift any human. No need to even think of using the paddle shifters at all.

2017 Stingray 2LT -- Torch Red, NPP Exhaust, 7spd manual, non-Z51 car.

2019 Stingray 1LT -- Elkhart Lake Blue, NPP Exhaust, 8spd automatic, non-Z51 car.
Thank you. Yes that was a Typo. I meant Z51.
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 10:48 AM
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I would have gotten the 2lt but didn't want to spend the money for homelink and the memory seat position. Those are the only two things I would want but not for the price the 2lt cost. As far as the z51 I have a GS so I have the z51 and love it stiff when you want soft when you want or inbetween it is great. The stock sub is garbage and you can absolutly add a sub, I did and it sounds killer. It is plug and play you do not have to cut one wire on the car and it can be done for around six hundred depending on what you buy it could be more or less. If you decide to add a sub pm me and I will walk you through it the worst part is taking the iinterior apart everything else is simple in these cars. The battery is in the rear so adding an amp is cake.
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 10:57 AM
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My recommendation is go for the 2LT package as well as the NPP exhaust. While not all items in the 2LT may be must haves, enough are to make it the value buy.
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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 11:07 AM
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I have a 2LT

The memory seats for me are a must have because I'm built like a strong man, How aggravating it would be to take several minutes each time you get in the car to adjust like all 5 settings, I would go nuts. I would probably get so annoyed I wouldn't want to go for a ride too much.

Heating and cooling seats only work in the spring and fall, on hot summer days you don't really notice the cooling. I like that feature though, after 40 minutes you will like the cooling feature because the tunnel gets so hot it's unpleasant.

The front camera is also a must for me, hitting the sidewalk when you want to park is no fun. I put my M7 in reverse and then in 1st gear to activate the cam. Wonderful.

The NPP is also a must, I wouldn't of bought the car without it. I wanted the supercar sound, YES!

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Old Jan 17, 2021 | 11:24 AM
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Here's we go again, yet another "which is better thread" where every poster of course declares what they have is the ONLY WAY TO GO.

Truth is, ALL (3) C7 trim levels contribute to a very FINE sportscar and only the individual knows what features/trim level best suits them based on individual likes/needs and ability to pay for it.
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2LT comes with plenty of things you don't need, but for some reason if they aren't there you will miss them.
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Originally Posted by TheDEfan
I've been on the search for a 2016 or newer Stingray Z51. I've found a really nice very low mileage 2016 Black on Black but it's a 1LT. The two things I want the most from the 2LT are the front camera and 10 speakers with the sub. Does anyone know if these are things that can be added? I'm trying to stay away from anything aftermarket. I've owned 3 C5"s and 1 C6 and the front camera is very important to me.
I bought a new1LT in 2017 and I am very happy with it. This is my 6th Corvette and my first new one. I added a front camera that I purchased at Costco. I hard wired it in as the solar charger that came with it was not doing the job. I see now at Costco they have a newer improved model. Anyway, the install was not a big deal.
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
So not true, go on Car Gurus or Kelly blue book and compare what a 2lt was new against what 1LT was .. then look at what trade in value is between the two .. then look at selling prices , then come back and tell us the results.... I am six sigma trained, show me the data , not the outliers , the one off example, show me the "mean" results

I think you will see why I am posting this reply .....

It all comes down to , does he want the nice to haves, is he planning on keeping it as if he is not then it will limit the available buyers to those that are ok with a 1LT
When new, the 2lt cost about $4500.00 more than the 1lt. The blue book difference now between 1lt and 2lt on a 2019 GS is about $1500.00. Im sure on older cars ,the difference is even less
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Or look for an eager seller who's C8 is coming in like I did and get a 17 3LT at an 1LT price
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All those "nice to have" items become muscle memory once you have them. Here's why I'm recommending the 2LT:
  • Despite being a skinny guy, easy exit does exactly what it says and is a big help even with the standard seat bolsters.
  • Seat memory is also helpful to bring a consistent driving position (which I learned at Spring Mountain).
  • Adjustable seat bolsters are a plus for a both skinny guys and widebodies.
  • Poverty splitter or better, the front camera is turned on for head-in parking 100% of the time, whether there are wheel stops (or a concrete wall in my office parking garage).
  • Ventilated seats a plus in high summertime temperatures; my a/c is cold enough but I don't like sticking to the seats when I first get in.
  • You'll probably get an insurance discount with the enhanced alarm system.
  • Plus there's a whole bunch of other items. For me, the top of the list was how a grey interior was spread further in the cabin.
  • I also appreciate the privacy shades in the cargo area, since I daily into Center City Philadelphia when the weather is right.
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I had a c6 Z51 3lt and traded for a 2017 Grand Sport 1lt A8. The c6 had all the bells and whistles. Now that I have had the GS I can honestly say that I don't miss or need all the items a 3lt has (or 2lt in your case). I bought my car for the performance and not to be a luxury car.
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