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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 02:59 PM
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Couldn't find any category in General Discussion where this might fit so I put it here in C7 since that's what I looking for.

Any tips for reading a CarFax ?

How would you guys read this particular CarFax ?

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...64TcxbTMzf3DXQ

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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 03:06 PM
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Looks self-explanatory.
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 03:18 PM
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Strange that it’s changed dealers/sold at action 4-5 times. Maybe something is seriously wrong with it where people are passing on it or the asking price is just too high.
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 03:20 PM
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It's totally straightforward.

What you want to do is have the GMVIS Report, and, the Carfax report SIDE-BY-SIDE and scroll diwn them both to get a good profile/read in the car. Then, you've done all you can do on paper sizing up the vehicle.

I did this when I bought my 2006 E320 CDI, used, from a Mercedes-Benz dealer. Scrolled the reports, looked the car over. test drove the car, then looked at KBB, then made an offer on the car. The dealer counter offered. I thought about it overnight, then write a check for the car. Pretty sumple.
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple
Strange that it’s changed dealers/sold at action 4-5 times. Maybe something is seriously wrong with it where people are passing on it or the asking price is just too high.
On a newish Corvette; sometimes car is returned to the dealer for some reason. Sometimes it was modded heavily by an owner that just wants his jollies out of beating the car. Sometimes it was a leased car. Or, sometimes the owners were just so bucks up, that they change cars like underwear - very frequently. Many times, dealers do not want to sit on the car trying to recoup dollars. They auction them quickly - especially if they are high mileage cars. Or, sometimes something is very wrong with the car. I dunno.......

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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Elk
Looks self-explanatory.
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Originally Posted by Pineapple
Strange that it’s changed dealers/sold at action 4-5 times. Maybe something is seriously wrong with it where people are passing on it or the asking price is just too high.
THIS is what I was wondering as well. Actually it is priced "fairly", as opposed to the ridiculous prices being asked for very similar cars.


Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
It's totally straightforward.

What you want to do is have the GMVIS Report, and, the Carfax report SIDE-BY-SIDE and scroll diwn them both to get a good profile/read in the car. Then, you've done all you can do on paper sizing up the vehicle.
Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
On a newish Corvette; sometimes car is returned to the dealer for some reason. Sometimes it was modded heavily by an owner that just wants his jollies out of beating the car. Sometimes it was a leased car. Or, sometimes the owners were just so bucks up, tgat they change cars like underwear - very frequently. Or, sometimes something is very wrong with the car. I dunno.......
I have no idea what a GMVIS report is but your 2nd post is exactly what I was going for with the thread.

e.g. I see 2 10K miles 3 year old cars. One has been driven 3.3K miles per year, the other 8K the first year and 2K in the last 3 months.

1st car looks pretty normal especially for a car many drive as a 2nd car. 2nd one - why the big gap ?

Sometimes one sees a car used normally for 3 years for 15K miles, has a "minor" accident (slight bodywork only), is driven another 500 miles and is then sold at auction or shows up at a dealer. Looks bad to ME.

Same car that has the same accident at 7500 miles and is driven another 7500 miles before being offered for sale ? Not bad at all.

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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 03:40 PM
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5k miles in 2 months is somewhat interesting.
Looks like it still belonged to the dealership.
Possible rental?
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 04:22 PM
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Personally I'd pass given how frequently C7 has been passed around in it's relatively short life.
However on the other hand, CarFax seems to be wrong as often as right. GM QMVIS report is a LOT MORE accurate.
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Originally Posted by legacypgmr
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THIS is what I was wondering as well. Actually it is priced "fairly", as opposed to the ridiculous prices being asked for very similar cars.






I have no idea what a QMVIS report is but your 2nd post is exactly what I was going for with the thread.

e.g. I see 2 10K miles 3 year old car. One has been driven 3.3K miles per year, the other 8K the first year and 2K in the last 3 months.

1st car looks pretty normal especially for a car many drive as a 2nd car. 2nd one - why the big gap ?

Sometimes one see a car used normally for 3 years for 15K miles, has a "minor" accident (slight bodywork only), is driven another 500 miles and is then sold at auction or shows up at a dealer. Looks bad to ME.

Same car that has the same accident at 7500 miles and is driven another 7500 miles before being offered for sale ? Not bad at all.
Check with any Chevrolet dealer. They'll be able to answer your questions about the reports available on Chevrolets.
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As is obvious from a quick glance of the Carfax, the vehicle has changed hands a lot. If this bothers you, move on to the next car.

As noted, the GMVIS (GM Vehicle Inquiry System - not QMVIS) will tell you more as to actual work needed/done than Carfax.
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 05:34 PM
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It could be the car was first assigned to the GM corporate fleet to be driven by an executive. The only issue with that is they usually keep the vehicle for 6 months, not 4. Once they decide to move the vehicle it would get sent to a GM dealer-only auction. That is probably how the Perry, GA dealership picked up the car. From there it looks like it was a corporate fleet vehicle for the dealership network. If you look at a map you will see the GA dealerships are only a few miles apart and may have a common top-level corporate owner. Then the movement back and forth between the GA and NC dealerships. Then to a NJ dealership. The NC dealership indicates it is part of Team Auto Group and that may indicate the connection between all of these dealers.

I found this when looking for a used Silverado. I found a VIN I was interested in at a dealership near me but when I started researching the VIN I found the truck wasn't at the dealership it was in TN and it was for sale at 3 dealerships. One in TN where the pictures showed the dealer's name in the background and the dealer near me and one in Florida. They were all part of the same mega dealership.

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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
It could be the car was first assigned to the GM corporate fleet to be driven by an executive. The only issue with that is they usually keep the vehicle for 6 months, not 4. Once they decide to move the vehicle it would get sent to a GM dealer-only auction. That is probably how the Perry, GA dealership picked up the car. From there it looks like it was a corporate fleet vehicle for the dealership network. If you look at a map you will see the GA dealerships are only a few miles apart and may have a common top-level corporate owner. Then the movement back and forth between the GA and NC dealerships. Then to a NJ dealership. The NC dealership indicates it is part of Team Auto Group and that may indicate the connection between all of these dealers.

I found this when looking for a used Silverado. I found a VIN I was interested in at a dealership near me but when I started researching the VIN I found the truck wasn't at the dealership it was in TN and it was for sale at 3 dealerships. One in TN where the pictures showed the dealer's name in the background and the dealer near me and one in Florida. They were all part of the same mega dealership.

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That's very interesting.

So, more or less a corporate executiv/demo car then ?

Makes sense. Thanks
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With all the "vehicle sold" entries, it still says 1 owner car....
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It may not have been registered after each sale.
I suspect the car has been sold just to dealers and used by dealerships.
Either as a loaner or rental.
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I've been reading a lot about CARFAX and one can really screw up a car that doesn't have the problems stated BUT people believe them like they were the holy grail it's very difficult to change them and convince people that they aren't accurate.

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Originally Posted by Walter Raulerson
I've been reading a lot about CARFAX and one can really screw up a car that doesn't have the problems stated BUT people believe them like they were the holy grail it's very difficult to change them and convince people that they aren't accurate.
Huh ?
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This vehicle certainly has a history of being passed around
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With all that passing around, there is something fishy happening. Too many other cars to chose from. If it was me, I'd walk away.
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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe
It's totally straightforward.

What you want to do is have the GMVIS Report, .
^^^ This. Go to a Chevrolet dealer and nicely as the Service Desk to run the VIS report on the Vin #. It lists the dealer maintenance history. It at least confirmed at lot for me when I bought my used 2006.
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 07:22 AM
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Don't put too much faith in a Carfax report. I had two vehicles, one my own and another a company vehicle. Both were damaged and taken to two different body shops in town for repair. Our own vehicle was several thousand dollars after a run in with a deer. Anyway, neither car ever showed up as having been damaged in a CarFax report. I have learned to only trust them so far.
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