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Old Jun 25, 2022 | 12:00 PM
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I know there are many threads on this topic already, but I think it is time for a re-fresh update.

I have a 2019 Grand Sport and my original, stock Michelin's are nearly bald, with only 8500 miles on them! They are the Pilot Super Sport, which I assume are a track tire.

What Michelin's should I buy that will give me a nice ride and a lot longer life?

I live in southwest Florida, mostly drive just locally (stores, restaurants) occasional interstate highway use, NO tracking, and usually in nice weather.

Any help and/ or suggestions is much appreciated.

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If you stick with Michelin the Pilot AS or 4S. Was you hard on the tires? I have a 2019 GS with 9600 miles and the same tire and they have 50% plus tread left. The Pilot Super Sport Cup is the highest preformance tire offered by Michelin that are legal for the street. Definately get an alignment with the new tires. Non ZP tires run a bit quieter..
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Old Jun 25, 2022 | 02:00 PM
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Unless you track or (maybe) autocross your car, today's All Season tires will be a good choice even if you never get cold weather.
Lower cost, longer life, sometimes a bit smoother & quieter.
The Michelin AS3+ is being replaced by the AS4, which should be a better tire overall. Either way, I'd get the ZP (runflat) version.
You might get a lower price on the AS3+ but if you ruin one a year or so later, you might not be able to find a replacement.
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Thanks Richard,
No.... definitely not hard on the tires. And I may have mislead.... not bald all the way across, mostly just those wide, center strips of tread.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun here. Now that I checked my neighbors C7 GS, they may not be that worn down after all.
Here's a pic. Any help?



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Looks like a lot of tire life to me.
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Old Jun 25, 2022 | 03:45 PM
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Thanks Mike,
You know I never realized what these tires looked like when new, so I was kinda dumb-struck after coming home from a 2500 mile road trip this week.

Maybe I'm good for a while?
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Originally Posted by Mark JD
Thanks Mike,
You know I never realized what these tires looked like when new, so I was kinda dumb-struck after coming home from a 2500 mile road trip this week.

Maybe I'm good for a while?
You can buy a tread depth indicator tool. That will tell you how much tread life you still have. These tires only come with 9/32.. I run my tires untill about 4/32 left.

Amazon.com: GODESON Tire Tread Depth Gauge,Two-Sided Smart Color Coded Tire Tread Depth Measurement Tool, Tire Wear Gauge in 32nds(Pack of 2) : Automotive Amazon.com: GODESON Tire Tread Depth Gauge,Two-Sided Smart Color Coded Tire Tread Depth Measurement Tool, Tire Wear Gauge in 32nds(Pack of 2) : Automotive

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The new tread depths on the Super Sports are 7.4/32“ on the fronts, and 7.8/32“ on the rear.

Mine have 9,500 miles on them with a tread depth of 6/32". Most people get at least 15,000 miles out of them. But many replace them when the they get too noisy.
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Originally Posted by car2fast4you
The new tread depths on the Super Sports are 7.4/32“ on the fronts, and 7.8/32“ on the rear.
I measured my 2017 GS when new and the depth was 7.2, 7.2, and 6.7 (outer, middle, and inner grooves) on both front and rear. Note the difference in the inner groove. I also checked a new GS at a local dealer with the same results. OTOH, my 2015 with Z51 tires showed 8.5 front, 9.0 rear--but I did not compare the different grooves on that car.

My GS is now at 4/32 front, 5/32 rear on the inner groove at 11k miles, so I think these tires are wearing as expected. I noticed more wear on the inner front at 7500 miles and had a street alignment done, which seems to have corrected the problem. Toe and negative camber were not set for optimal tire wear from the factory, which I understand is typical.
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Looks like there is plenty of tread left on that tire, but confirm with a tread depth gauge. When the time comes for new tires, I would suggest Michelin A/S4+ tires. Personally I would go with the ZP runflats, but the would be your decision to make.
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Tires look great. They have less tread depth when new so compared to other OEM tires can appear worn. Wife’s SUV is a Dodge Durango SRT and they look the same. And actually more expensive to replace.
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Originally Posted by Mark JD
I know there are many threads on this topic already, but I think it is time for a re-fresh update.

I have a 2019 Grand Sport and my original, stock Michelin's are nearly bald, with only 8500 miles on them! They are the Pilot Super Sport, which I assume are a track tire.

What Michelin's should I buy that will give me a nice ride and a lot longer life?

I live in southwest Florida, mostly drive just locally (stores, restaurants) occasional interstate highway use, NO tracking, and usually in nice weather.

Any help and/ or suggestions is much appreciated.

Mark D.
A/S Michelins. Yours didn't last very long!😳
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Originally Posted by Mark JD
Thanks Richard,
No.... definitely not hard on the tires. And I may have mislead.... not bald all the way across, mostly just those wide, center strips of tread.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun here. Now that I checked my neighbors C7 GS, they may not be that worn down after all.
Here's a pic. Any help?


there are wear bar indicators which will tell you how much life is left, i just feel with my fingers
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
Looks like there is plenty of tread left on that tire, but confirm with a tread depth gauge. When the time comes for new tires, I would suggest Michelin A/S4+ tires. Personally I would go with the ZP runflats, but the would be your decision to make.
That is probably what I am going with at the beginning of the next year. Original tires that are a 16 vintage doesn't make me feel that comfortable and I don't really like the grip when I hit it. Definitely go with ZP since I don't like "tow truck time". Their idea of what constitutes a half hour seems to be different from mine.
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Old Jun 26, 2022 | 02:27 AM
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if you live in florida you dont need all season tires.

check out the michelin pilot sport 4 S.

not the pilot sport 4.... the pilot sport 4 S.

the continentals are also good though the pirellis suck, so dont bother with those. you might find toyo's in the right size but dont recall if any of the toyo's worth using come in c7 appropriate sizes for a 20" rim..
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Old Jun 26, 2022 | 09:26 AM
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Thanks to everyone for all the help and advice.

Looks like I have some time left after all. I did the depth measurement and I am getting about 5/32 to 6/32.
Might get another year or two out of these tires seeing I only put on about 3,000 miles per year. Are the wear bars those diagonal lines along the right side?

I just wasn't used to the 'look' of these tires compared to my 2014 C7, which was a Stingray. A lot more tread on those!

Thanks again and yes I will get run-flats for sure when the time comes.
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One thing to keep in mind is aquaplaning in rain. Over the years I like to replace tires after stretching them as long as I can but... 3-4/32 is fine in the dry and probably ok in the wet at local speeds, say 55 and less. OTOH if it starts raining on the interstate at 70-75, that 4/32 tread can get real exciting real quickly. Before we retired my wife an I have both generally had 45-60 minute commutes. I would run my tires as above. But we have replaced her tires several times at 4-5/32 because it is October and snow is coming soon. BTW we learned about the Conti DWS tires on her 2015 Mustang GT. Bouight the car in April and replaced the OE 'summer' tires in Sept because they very obviously had lost traction in cooler weather. Research at Tire Rack said try the DWS and she was so happy w/ them, even in a Mustang in 3 inches of snow, that she is now on her second set and I bought them for my 19 Stingray to replace the OE runflats.
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I'd like to give a shout out for the Continental Extremes. Same scenario on my 2017 GS in Georgia with the harder compound of the Michelin's I decided to take a different approach.
The Continental's 285/30R19 & 335/25ZR20 , much quieter and very smooth.
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