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Old Jan 7, 2023 | 05:25 PM
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so i Ordered some speed engineering headers , now they “require” you to use their xpipe but i already have and love my EOS one. So i reached out to them and they said all i need is just a 45 degree bended part to make it fit. So what im wondering if anyone can help, will this be long enough to reach from where the headers end to where my xpipe begins. Thanks!
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even if it is long enough, those are made from some kind of an aluminum butter alloy. I don't recommend using them for anything but a very temporary solution -- they are absolute garbage.
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Old Jan 7, 2023 | 05:53 PM
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even if it is long enough, those are made from some kind of an aluminum butter alloy. I don't recommend using them for anything but a very temporary solution -- they are absolute garbage.
i will get stainless steel ones , my main concern is the fitment
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i will get stainless steel ones , my main concern is the fitment
Why not just use the X pipe that came with the headers instead of jury rigging it There is no difference In mid pipes , it's just pipes .. Dave
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Why not just use the X pipe that came with the headers instead of jury rigging it There is no difference In mid pipes , it's just pipes .. Dave
Because i already have had on my EOS xpipe since before headers were even a thought. Wouldn’t make sense to buy another xpipe , pay for that to be installed as well which would probably be $450-500 total when i can spend $100 and retain my current xpipe.

i guess ill just order some stainless ones and if there too short or too long just adjust them as needed.
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Get longer than you expect to need and cut to size... but, of course it will cost a few bucks more.
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Why not just use the X pipe that came with the headers instead of jury rigging it There is no difference In mid pipes , it's just pipes .. Dave
The Corvette tax comes into play with any aftermarket parts you buy for these cars, you can always sell your existing X pipe to recover some of the cost
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Plus the Speed Engineering Headers are a slip fit verses the EOS pipes bolt on config using a donut gasket OP it's your car and I know you are trying to save some money but all we are trying to do is give you some direction on how to proceed , sometimes the "Juice is not worth the squeeze" . Isn't that the point of these forums? As pointed out above , you could easily sell your mid pipe , that would cover the cost of buying the correct pipes and eliminating all the headaches that others have suffered thru already

Your not the first guy to try and do this ..... , no matter what Speed Engineering told you it its going to take some fabrication skills

Good Luck and let us know how it turns out

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Get longer than you expect to need and cut to size... but, of course it will cost a few bucks more.
thats what i did. Lets see how this goes haha
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Plus the Speed Engineering Headers are a slip fit verses the EOS pipes bolt on config using a donut gasket OP it's your car and I know you are trying to save some money but all we are trying to do is give you some direction on how to proceed , sometimes the "Juice is not worth the squeeze" . Isn't that the point of these forums? As pointed out above , you could easily sell your mid pipe , that would cover the cost of buying the correct pipes and eliminating all the headaches that others have suffered thru already

Your not the first guy to try and do this ..... , no matter what Speed Engineering told you it its going to take some fabrication skills

Good Luck and let us know how it turns out

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well, i just sent a email to cancel the fabrication..

more so than just the extra money this is gonna cost me , im just bummed that now this delays my plans even further . It took 2 + weeks to get the headers since im in cali , and no doubt will be the same for their xpipe.

as a content creator thats trying to push out all of this content , now im jsut left with header stuck in my room for the next month which sucks
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Originally Posted by Juju2002
well, i just sent a email to cancel the fabrication.. more so than just the extra money this is gonna cost me , im just bummed that now this delays my plans even further . It took 2 + weeks to get the headers since im in cali , and no doubt will be the same for their xpipe. as a content creator thats trying to push out all of this content , now im jsut left with header stuck in my room for the next month which sucks
I get it ..... but in the end it's going to be worth it as you won't have to be worried about exhaust leaks from 2 more connections ( Exhaust leaks will drive the ECM nuts ) not to mention you could get some false knock retard if the pipes bang anywhere

The install is hard enough , you are better off not complicating it by trying to fabricate the pipes

I have personally done a ton of work on my car , headers , X pipe , ported intake , ported throttle body , CAI , tune and finally a procharger . I also bought GDS2 as I don't want to be tied to any dealer or mechanic .

We also just finished up putting a warmed over LS3 into my buddies C6

With every project I have done I have made friends and have taken the advice of so many guys on this forum who have all "Done it before" and made mistakes or they advised me on the tools I would need

The result is every project has been a success , i do not rush anything because thats when stuff happens that you will regret .


I now have one really bad *** C7 that I would not think twice about taking on a trip across the county . The same goes for my buddies C6 ...

​​​​​​​Feel free to email me thru the forums or PM me if you get stuck on anything Good Luck and make sure you let us know how it turns out Dave​​​​​​​
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
I get it ..... but in the end it's going to be worth it as you won't have to be worried about exhaust leaks from 2 more connections ( Exhaust leaks will drive the ECM nuts ) not to mention you could get some false knock retard if the pipes bang anywhere

The install is hard enough , you are better off not complicating it by trying to fabricate the pipes

I have personally done a ton of work on my car , headers , X pipe , ported intake , ported throttle body , CAI , tune and finally a procharger . I also bought GDS2 as I don't want to be tied to any dealer or mechanic .

We also just finished up putting a warmed over LS3 into my buddies C6

With every project I have done I have made friends and have taken the advice of so many guys on this forum who have all "Done it before" and made mistakes or they advised me on the tools I would need

The result is every project has been a success , i do not rush anything because thats when stuff happens that you will regret .


I now have one really bad *** C7 that I would not think twice about taking on a trip across the county . The same goes for my buddies C6 ...

Feel free to email me thru the forums or PM me if you get stuck on anything Good Luck and make sure you let us know how it turns out Dave​​​​​​​
Respect to you for doing it yourself. Im 20 and I definitely don’t want to use my Corvette as my test rat when it comes to doing work , so i pay reputable shops to do the work that they can also warranty.

So if i did fabricate it , it would be done as professionally as possible.

thankyou all for the advice !
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"test rat" is not a term associated with most Vettes!
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"test rat" is not a term associated with most Vettes!
i more so meant that I’m 20 , and since i have no prior mechanical experience past installing a lip , TB and CAI , I don’t feel comfortable trying to install more serious things that take a longer tike / more level of skill to do. Because of the fact that it is a Corvette and deserves better than that lol
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i more so meant that I’m 20 , and since i have no prior mechanical experience past installing a lip , TB and CAI , I don’t feel comfortable trying to install more serious things that take a longer tike / more level of skill to do. Because of the fact that it is a Corvette and deserves better than that lol
It's just bolts and know how, we all started somewhere on something , mine was a one year old 70 Chevrolet big block that i bought , that was a lot of money back then I felt the same way as you did ... but I was lucky enough to have a lot of mentors because we did not have the internet . With the new cars we are lucky to have forums now . I never installed headers on a C7 before so I printed off every header install thread , watched every u tube video, if they said I needed a special tool , I bought it , if I needed to take it off. I removed it .... you will be fine working on it , just keep asking questions .... 😀 😃 🙂

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You do realize that when you need to have the car inspected, it'll fail visual. I'm not aware of any full length (ie "long tube") headers that are CARB approved. Taking it a step further, if you tune the car....which you'll need to do unless you're adding aftermarket cats so that the aft o2 sensors can do their job...the tune will fail you as well.

Regarding the x-pipe....far easier to use the one that fits (as you're finding out) and then sell the other to recoup a bit of the cost.
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You do realize that when you need to have the car inspected, it'll fail visual. I'm not aware of any full length (ie "long tube") headers that are CARB approved. Taking it a step further, if you tune the car....which you'll need to do unless you're adding aftermarket cats so that the aft o2 sensors can do their job...the tune will fail you as well.

Regarding the x-pipe....far easier to use the one that fits (as you're finding out) and then sell the other to recoup a bit of the cost.
im just gonna “hot smog” it . Im nit gonna limit my enjoyment of my car because of californias shitty carb laws. Ill cam it one day too.
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im just gonna “hot smog” it . Im nit gonna limit my enjoyment of my car because of californias shitty carb laws. Ill cam it one day too.
Don't know what "hot smog it" is. Regardless, they still perform a visual which it'll fail.

From BAR....https://www.bar.ca.gov/consumer/smog-check-program/faq

What is a Smog Check?
A Smog Check is an inspection of a vehicle’s emissions-control equipment and systems to measure the amount and type of pollutants the vehicle is emitting. A Smog Check may include any of the following inspections, depending on the vehicle type and model year:
Visual inspection of emissions-control equipment and systems.
Functional inspection of the vehicle’s check engine light, ignition timing, exhaust gas recirculation system, fuel evaporative system, and gas cap.
Functional inspection of the vehicle’s on-board diagnostic (OBD) system.
Tailpipe emissions inspection.
Part of the visual is the exhaust

Good luck

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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
Don't know what "hot smog it" is. Regardless, they still perform a visual which it'll fail.

From BAR....https://www.bar.ca.gov/consumer/smog-check-program/faq

What is a Smog Check?
A Smog Check is an inspection of a vehicle’s emissions-control equipment and systems to measure the amount and type of pollutants the vehicle is emitting. A Smog Check may include any of the following inspections, depending on the vehicle type and model year:
Visual inspection of emissions-control equipment and systems.
Functional inspection of the vehicle’s check engine light, ignition timing, exhaust gas recirculation system, fuel evaporative system, and gas cap.
Functional inspection of the vehicle’s on-board diagnostic (OBD) system.
Tailpipe emissions inspection.
Part of the visual is the exhaust

Good luck

it means theres people that you pay extra too and they simply just pass you knowing your not actually passable. Plenty of people do it in cali.
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Originally Posted by Juju2002
it means theres people that you pay extra too and they simply just pass you knowing your not actually passable. Plenty of people do it in cali.
….and in older cars that was fine. Newer cars the data is transmitted electronically via the OBD II port in the car to the state in addition to the visual done by the shop. You can’t fake the VIN and OBD II data coming from the car. No data, no sticker from the CA DMV for your license plate. If it fails, they tell you shops you can go to for repair. They’ll even go so far as to help people offset some of the repair cost.

Until a year ago, I lived in Los Angeles. Been there, done that. Depending on the year of your car, you may be fine for awhile. Just know it’s coming unless you sell first.
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