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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 11:52 AM
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I hope that is the case. Since the problem apparently appeared after the flush, a low fluid level could be a possible cause. If it is due to the issue in the Service Bulletin it would be an interesting coincidence.
Harsh shift engagement is not caused by fluid and there is a TSB out for converter leakdown which requires the removal and replacement of the valvebody but that only affected a small portion of transmissions

The relearn process should be done FIRST , this process runs the clutches thru a series of tests to determine how much presure to apply to engage and also measure the time on how long it takes to disengage each clutch . After procedure is performed the tech should do a drive cycle varying speeds etc as the TCM is now in a learning phase measuring the RPM , Preasure ETC that it takes to make a perfect engagement each and every shift and also when placed into gear .

Your trans might shift funky for 50 miles or so while it's in this learning stage , I recommend that you drive it like you stole it

Then I can assure your trans will engage smoothly and shift perfect

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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Harsh shift engagement is not caused by fluid and there is a TSB out for converter leakdown which requires the removal and replacement of the valvebody but that only affected a small portion of transmissions
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AH, That’s it! That’s what I was thinking of in my post #2. Was thinking it had something to do with a part (valve body) needing to refill after a leak down overnight. So it’s a torque converter problem, not exactly a transmission one. My understanding is that can be a pretty costly fix.

Curious why starting out using the paddles seemed to alleviate the problem? Maybe because it was being held in 1st gear a bit longer before I shifted to 2nd? It appears that the 3x flush, had I had it performed, wouldn’t have helped any.
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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 01:07 PM
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AH, That’s it! That’s what I was thinking of in my post #2. Was thinking it had something to do with a part (valve body) needing to refill after a leak down overnight. So it’s a torque converter problem, not exactly a transmission one. My understanding is that can be a pretty costly fix.
No not converter problem its a valve body problem that allows the converter to leak down

Before you condemn anything , do the garage relearn that i mentioned above becaue there is a 95 % probability that this will solve your issue

Curious why starting out using the paddles seemed to alleviate the problem? Maybe because it was being held in 1st gear a bit longer before I shifted to 2nd? It appears that the 3x flush, had I had it performed, wouldn’t have helped any.
This is the tip off that i dont think you have any issues with converter leakdown and you need a garage relearn , yes it's because you are holding the gears and not allowing the TCM to shift it

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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
No not converter problem its a valve body problem that allows the converter to leak down

Before you condemn anything , do the garage relearn that i mentioned above becaue there is a 95 % probability that this will solve your issue


This is the tip off that i dont think you have any issues with converter leakdown and you need a garage relearn , yes it's because you are holding the gears and not allowing the TCM to shift it

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Thanks Dave. Good information that I wish I had known. I’m sure it’ll help others who may be encountering the issue. It’s a moot point for me now, as I got rid of the car 5 years ago. Have recently acquired a 2014 C7 2LT Z51 coupe with the A6. Much happier with it, although the ride is a bit harsher than the base 2016 was.
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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 05:59 PM
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I think there are several different issues with the A8:
Stutter/shudder under light throttle. The "redesigned" fluid is supposed to fix that, and it usually does.
Delayed/harsh engagement into D, usually on first drive of the day. Requires new part and expensive labor to fix.
Lurch on first 1-2 shift each day. That's the only problem we have, and the manual 1-2-1 shift mentioned in post #7 solves that for us. Any actual fix would have to be quick/easy/cheap, for me to bother.
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Lurch on first 1-2 shift each day. That's the only problem we have, and the manual 1-2-1 shift mentioned in post #7 solves that for us. Any actual fix would have to be quick/easy/cheap, for me to bother.
Jim as I mentioned hard or sloopy shifts are 99% of the time fixed with the relearn procedure. This goes of not only the A8 , it also applies to the A6 .

Anyone with HPtuners GDS2 or some other high end diagnostic tools can perform the procedure. I had 1st to 2nd shift flair... on both my C6 and my C7 . Ran the procedure and it cured the issue . I have done it for several of my friends that has hard downshift or upshift complaints and we were able to correct it for them .

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Old Jun 15, 2023 | 08:19 PM
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Not a big problem for me. but I'll look into the relearn. Thanks.
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