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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 05:00 AM
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What is the best scan tool that's affordable that can do some or most diagnostic and npp. Thanks
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Autel

800 or 900 series.
Do you know if those scanners will do a transmission relearn, as mine seems to drag out the shift at about 25 mph. It doesn’t want to shift until it hits about 27 or 28 and it holds the rpm’s on high side at 25.
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What is the best scan tool that's affordable that can do some or most diagnostic and npp. Thanks
I use VXDIAG NANO and GM's GDS2 Diagnostic software.

I bought an older refurbished Dell and a Lenovo off of Amazon that I used specifically for my diagnostic tools for my car, I have HP Tuners for my ECM/TCM tuning needs and for diagnostics

I have $200 tied up in the laptop (I did not need two, but you will see the reason below why I bought a second lol) and $125 in the VX DIAG Nano so for $325.00 I have the most powerful diagnostic software available for GM cars (others makes are available)

Tech II WIN (older GM software) and GDS2 (Newer GM 2011 to 2019) does everything a dealer can do, reading and resetting codes, module relearn, programing, diagnostic procedures like commanding specific modules to perform, (IE you can command the trans to hold a gear, command the Antilock system to stay open when bleeding brakes ETC, ETC). it does a lot more. I specify like reading all modules and getting the report on if there were any issues. it also monitors every PID in real time and has a SCOPE function

You can also use the VX DIAG module as an MDI communications device to download updates from right from GM's Website. it's a powerful tool and it's the best diagnostic tool that does not cost a fortune

Loading the software is a pain in the butt as there really is not any support but if you are a little computer savvy, it's not bad, if you are not computer savvy, they sell version with it preloaded on a hard drive hard drive that you can install or use as a secondary USING a USB Hard drive dingle that you can buy anywhere

There is a wireless version of the VX Nano, but I caution people not to buy it as it just adds l complexity to the install, stick with the USB wired connection
VX DIAG NANO
USB Version VXDiag VCX NANO for GM/OPEL 2024.5.8 G-D-S2 Tech-2-WIN Diagnostic Tool
Amazon.com: VXDIAG VCX Nano GDS2 and Tech2Win Diagnostic Tool Compatible for GM/OPEL with Global Diagnostic Programming System GDS & GDS2 Blue : Automotive

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Or buy the hard drive 2TB Hard Drive with Full Brands Software for VXDIAG MULTI TOOL
This hard drive has all the different manufacturers diagnostic software ...... I can't speak to how they work except for the Mercedes Benz Software as I have used that
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I made sure the laptops I bought had at least a ICORE 5 processor and 16 gig of ram (I had to add a stick to one, but it was super cheap). They are plenty fast, and the only downside is that they are not as small and light as newer models. I am going to try and load the Software on a windows tablet as that would be the ultimate experience. I will keep you posted

Been using this on my car and all my friends' cars for years now (lol they all know I got this, and HP tuners and they all call me when they need it, hence the 2nd laptop lol)
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Do you know if those scanners will do a transmission relearn, as mine seems to drag out the shift at about 25 mph. It doesn’t want to shift until it hits about 27 or 28 and it holds the rpm’s on high side at 25.
Relearn is not going to help that .......you got something else going on is its holding gears (email me I would be glad to help Dcasole AT Comcast.net)
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Originally Posted by Tinkertech
Autel

800 or 900 series.
They only do basic stuff ... at this price point, they do more than a simple code reader, but anything more than that they really vary in what else they can do by manufacture, most will do throttle relearn, window anti pinch reset, oil lite reset .... you have to move up to the much more expensive professional series to get specific module programing or control

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I used Hi-dollar Snap-On for years when working with the Solus Ultra I think it was. Worked OK but updates were 6-800 a shot and the windows software was at times buggy. I have a budget Autel that is basically just a code reader and can do a bit of live scanning but not much else, not a bad little tool though. I just recently bought an Xtool D7S. Bi-Directional, Android 10 OS, 3 yr free updates, 2 yr Warranty. After 3 year period updates are only $99 per year. This tool is nice and will do lots more than a simple code reader. I let a friend of mine try it in his shop and he bought one saying he couldn't find anything his Snap-On could do better. For a DIY home user it should be plenty. Bought the D7S kit on ebay for $306 free ship.

There are tons of scan tools for sale and it depends are what you plan on doing with them. The Xtool D8 is a step up from my D7S but for me really isn't worth the extra cost. You can spend $1000 and up on a tool but will you use all it's capabilities?
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I used Hi-dollar Snap-On for years when working with the Solus Ultra I think it was. Worked OK but updates were 6-800 a shot and the windows software was at times buggy. I have a budget Autel that is basically just a code reader and can do a bit of live scanning but not much else, not a bad little tool though. I just recently bought an Xtool D7S. Bi-Directional, Android 10 OS, 3 yr free updates, 2 yr Warranty. After 3 year period updates are only $99 per year. This tool is nice and will do lots more than a simple code reader. I let a friend of mine try it in his shop and he bought one saying he couldn't find anything his Snap-On could do better. For a DIY home user it should be plenty. Bought the D7S kit on ebay for $306 free ship.

There are tons of scan tools for sale, and it depends are what you plan on doing with them. The Xtool D8 is a step up from my D7S but for me really isn't worth the extra cost. You can spend $1000 and up on a tool but will you use all it's capabilities?
Yep, the Solus Ultra was the king and one time !! but as you noted they were expensive to buy and updates were pricey, the same goes for the Autel or other high dollar scanners that can access Module Level diagnostics, Thats why I bought the VX Diag NANO, you get GDS2 with it

The Androids are nice, but the OP specifically asked to access his NPP, not sure why .... I bought an Android scanner for my Mercedes as I needed to reset the Anti- Pinch on the sunroof after replacing the tracks, the WEB site stated that it could do it, and even the manual told you the menu levels you needed to use to access it , I install my new tracks plugged in the scan tool and I could reset almost every module .... (Seats, Windows, Truck Release, Parking Brake) EXCEPT the sunroof ......the menu they specifically sated was there not there lol, I ended up taking it to my local shop that I am friendly with, and they used their MBEZE software to reset it for me no charge, so i bought them all lunch .....

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Thanks, I'm looking for a simple, easy to use and trying to stay under $5 to $600. Would this be useful it says this in description
"Innova CarScan Code Scanner: Bidirectional & Active Test, Special Resets, Free Fix and Part Recommendations
  • Bi-directional control/ Active Tests: Allow you to send commands to your vehicle in order to test functionality just like a dealership mechanic would.
  • Special Reset Function: Gives you the ability to use dealership level relearn procedures to complete repairs or maintenance
  • Enhanced Data Stream: view live data for advanced systems such as ABS, SRS, transmission and engine
  • Full Vehicle Module Scan: Modern vehicles can have up to 150 separate ecu modules that have their own trouble codes. This powerful function can read and clear them all.
  • TPMS: Read
  • ABS/SRS: Read and Clear on Domestic / Asian / European vehicles
  • Oil Light reset
  • Battery Initialization/Reset
  • View Live Data
  • SMOG Check LED Indicators
  • Code Severity Levels
  • DPF Regen"
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...t=store_pickup
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Thanks, I'm looking for a simple, easy to use and trying to stay under $5 to $600. Would this be useful it says this in description
"Innova CarScan Code Scanner: Bidirectional & Active Test, Special Resets, Free Fix and Part Recommendations
  • Bi-directional control/ Active Tests: Allow you to send commands to your vehicle in order to test functionality just like a dealership mechanic would.
  • Special Reset Function: Gives you the ability to use dealership level relearn procedures to complete repairs or maintenance
  • Enhanced Data Stream: view live data for advanced systems such as ABS, SRS, transmission and engine
  • Full Vehicle Module Scan: Modern vehicles can have up to 150 separate ecu modules that have their own trouble codes. This powerful function can read and clear them all.
  • TPMS: Read
  • ABS/SRS: Read and Clear on Domestic / Asian / European vehicles
  • Oil Light reset
  • Battery Initialization/Reset
  • View Live Data
  • SMOG Check LED Indicators
  • Code Severity Levels
  • DPF Regen"
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...t=store_pickup

It looks good by the specs ....... but so did my Mecedes Scanner ...... The one thing that I bought it for, and the spec said it did, it did not do,

Looking at his scanner I do not believe you will be able to RELEARN a NPP or an AFM valve

What specifically are you going to use it for

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It looks good by the specs ....... but so did my Mecedes Scanner ...... The one thing that I bought it for, and the spec said it did, it did not do,

Looking at his scanner I do not believe you will be able to RELEARN a NPP or an AFM valve

What specifically are you going to use it for

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relearn npp but if spending the money I might as well get a decent scan tool. Something to do basic scans and some diagnostics.
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Based on the few reviews of that tool looks like folks are not happy with it. The D7S does everything that tool does and more it looks like for the same price. Plus it has a 7 inch touch screen. Comes in a nice storage case as well. I spent hours watching YT vids on these tools before I chose the D7S. Are there better? I'm sure there are but what are you willing to spend and how involved are you planning to get?
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Just curious of what the NPP needs to relearn? In other words what's going on with the exhaust that you need a scanner for this.
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relearn npp but if spending the money I might as well get a decent scan tool. Something to do basic scans and some diagnostics.
I dont think this will relearn NPP , if u buy it make sure you can return it if it does not do what you need it to do
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Just curious of what the NPP needs to relearn? In other words what's going on with the exhaust that you need a scanner for this.
when I bought it last march it had a borla exhaust on it and only 1 valve opens. I seen a thread here yesterday by someone else having a problem with their npp and a relearn was suggested.
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Based on the few reviews of that tool looks like folks are not happy with it. The D7S does everything that tool does and more it looks like for the same price. Plus it has a 7 inch touch screen. Comes in a nice storage case as well. I spent hours watching YT vids on these tools before I chose the D7S. Are there better? I'm sure there are but what are you willing to spend and how involved are you planning to get?
Thanks where's a good place to buy one?
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Is this the one?
Limited-time deal: XTOOL D7S OBD2 Scanner Diagnostic Tool, Upgrade of D7, 36+ Resets, Bidirectional Scan Tool with ECU Coding, 4000+ Active Test, All System Diagnose, Crankshaft Relearn, CAN FD/DoIP, 3 Years Update https://a.co/d/iztd3DA
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bought it last march it had a borla exhaust on it and only 1 valve opens. I seen a thread here yesterday by someone else having a problem with their npp and a relearn was suggested.
NPP hardly ever requires a Relearn, I am willing to bet that something is wrong with the actuator , either it was not installed correctly, it's not plugged in , the mechanical valve in the exhaust might be jammed or simply the actuator is just broken, it's pretty easy to swap out with the working one and check the operation of the valve ... I would try that first just to make sure the actuator and valve are functioning .

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Is this the one?
Limited-time deal: XTOOL D7S OBD2 Scanner Diagnostic Tool, Upgrade of D7, 36+ Resets, Bidirectional Scan Tool with ECU Coding, 4000+ Active Test, All System Diagnose, Crankshaft Relearn, CAN FD/DoIP, 3 Years Update https://a.co/d/iztd3DA
you have to download the manuals and see if it will do what you need it to do , crank relearn, and many of the other tests and functions are pretty much standard across the board , its when you want to do specific to one brand function like relearn NPP that you need to see the details of the tool to see if it will do what u need
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Is this the one?
Limited-time deal: XTOOL D7S OBD2 Scanner Diagnostic Tool, Upgrade of D7, 36+ Resets, Bidirectional Scan Tool with ECU Coding, 4000+ Active Test, All System Diagnose, Crankshaft Relearn, CAN FD/DoIP, 3 Years Update https://a.co/d/iztd3DA
Yes the D7S. But I got mine off ebay for $306 free ship end of October. Do your research first watch some YT vids. I think alot of these offshore scan tools are the same units only with different colored case and sold by many different companies. Who knows. First one I got off Amazon and returned it as it was a used one that someone had already updated and the screen was dark in left corner. Amazon gave me some shyt about a return so I included a written note in black magic marker so the idiots that hopefully can read English could see what was wrong with it. Got full refund then I went to 'bay.
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