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Old May 20, 2025 | 09:58 PM
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I'm thinking about putting this Hotlicks Exhaust mod on my C7, one of the requirements says that you need to have a cat delete on the car for it to work properly.

Problem is, I live in California, where smog checks are extremely strict.
Slight good news is, that it may possibly work with a high flow cat, but it will most likely just burn out in the end.

So should I just get a high flow cat and watch it burn out? Or should I get a cat delete and watch myself fail the smog check.
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Doubt it works on newer Gen cars like the C7. As soon as you press the button I’d expect the PCM to generate error codes. In addition, the fuel pressures on a C7 are an order of magnitude higher than old fuel injected engines.

Bullet cats fail in CA as do no cats. With no cats you’ll get errors for the aft o2 sensors. Program the errors out and CA will fail you for a modified tune.
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Old May 22, 2025 | 12:52 AM
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Is it really worth it? Failing smog is a pain in the ***, is it really worth the hassle?
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Old May 22, 2025 | 04:54 PM
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I agree. Why in Cali would you want to mess w/ emissions equipment? 20-30HP? Louder exhaust? Not me.
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DON'T do a cat delete, your car will smell like rotten eggs anytime you sit in traffic or at idle....most "sport cats" are junk & not worth the price. Modern OEM catalytic converters are very efficient & a very minimal horsepower gain is achieved from removing them
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Old May 23, 2025 | 10:36 AM
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DON'T do a cat delete, your car will smell like rotten eggs anytime you sit in traffic or at idle....most "sport cats" are junk & not worth the price. Modern OEM catalytic converters are very efficient & a very minimal horsepower gain is achieved from removing them
OP wants to shoot flames out the exhaust Fast & Furious style, not make more power.
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Old May 23, 2025 | 11:34 AM
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DON'T do a cat delete, your car will smell like rotten eggs anytime you sit in traffic or at idle....most "sport cats" are junk & not worth the price. Modern OEM catalytic converters are very efficient & a very minimal horsepower gain is achieved from removing them
Deleting cats doesn't smell like a rotten egg. The rotten egg smell comes from having cats that are problematic.

That being said, OP seems like its going to be a pain to have a California registration and do fun stuff with the car. Maybe change the registration to another state and bypass all the dumb regulations.
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Originally Posted by deepsfoyrotcaf
I'm thinking about putting this Hotlicks Exhaust mod on my C7, one of the requirements says that you need to have a cat delete on the car for it to work properly.

Problem is, I live in California, where smog checks are extremely strict.
Slight good news is, that it may possibly work with a high flow cat, but it will most likely just burn out in the end.

So should I just get a high flow cat and watch it burn out? Or should I get a cat delete and watch myself fail the smog check.
High Flow Cats will also fail the visual inspection, which in turn could put you, after approved Cat repair, on the yearly inspection requirement.
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Originally Posted by speed4tu
Deleting cats doesn't smell like a rotten egg. The rotten egg smell comes from having cats that are problematic.
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Yes you are right , you wont smell like rotten eggs .... you will smell like you just got thru mowing the lawn with an old two stroke weed eater

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I thought that in California if you alter anything on the engine or exhaust system, you fail.
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Originally Posted by deepsfoyrotcaf
I'm thinking about putting this Hotlicks Exhaust mod on my C7, one of the requirements says that you need to have a cat delete on the car for it to work properly.

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Flames .... on a C7 .... really ????????? Next you will tell me you want a "POP" tune

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I think CARB may be going the way of the Dodo bird.
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