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Replacing tires (finally) 2015 Sting Ray 20k miles on originals Michelin Super Sport.
Is there still wisdom to changing to Michelin Pilot Sport All Season?
'Vette rarely driven in wet weather and certainly not frozen roads. Looking for good performance and more mileage if possible.
ps. Not a real aggressive driver.
Wow, 11 years on tires? Not a good idea. Yes, the Michelin PS AS tires will last more miles, and unless you're racing it you won't notice any loss in dry traction. But then, you really should replace tires more often than every 11 years regardless of the miles on them. You will notice new tires are a lot quieter than what you have on it now, so there's that.
And summer tires should not be driven in any temp below about 35*. This isn't about traction, summer tires will actually crack when driven in to cold of conditions.
I had the OEM tires on my 2016 Stingray replaced a few years ago with a set of Michelin AS4 ZP. The Ackerman effect went away. Plus, I can drive in lower temps now.
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JMO, but getting a set of Michelin A/S tires would be a very good choice. I am currently running the Michelin A/S 3+ ZP tires on mine and am very pleased with them.
Guess I am sort of easy on the tires. Do watch psi pretty close but they did come inflated with nitrogen. Hard to find in my area. Do you guys recommend nitrogen?
Also, Vetteman Jack runs Michelin A/S 3+ ZP. Is there a difference in those and the Michelin PS AS?
Replacing tires (finally) 2015 Sting Ray 20k miles on originals Michelin Super Sport.
Is there still wisdom to changing to Michelin Pilot Sport All Season?
'Vette rarely driven in wet weather and certainly not frozen roads. Looking for good performance and more mileage if possible.
ps. Not a real aggressive driver.
Thanks, Glenn
Mt Juliet, TN
ExtremeContact DWS 06 PLUS
You can get a set of these at Sam's club. They'll come with the certs for all four tires and it'll be a lot cheaper than discount tire. People love them. I have them on my Corvette and I love them. I have hankook summer tires on my Dodge Charger and as soon as those wear out I'm going to get the Continentals and put them on the charger. A lot of guys in this forum have them on their Corvettes and they are really satisfied.
Description:
The ExtremeContact DWS 06 PLUS is Continental's Ultra High Performance All-Season tire developed for drivers of sports cars, sports coupes, performance sedans, SUVs and CUVs. Designed to improve upon key metrics compared to its predecessor, like braking in dry and wet, along with increased traction in snow and ice, the ExtremeContact DWS 06 PLUS is built to deliver skillful handling and high-speed capability with increased confidence for inclement weather, even in light snow.
Guess I am sort of easy on the tires. Do watch psi pretty close but they did come inflated with nitrogen. Hard to find in my area. Do you guys recommend nitrogen?
Nitrogen in a street car is just another way to pick your pocket. Don’t waste your money.
As for run flats, think about what you will do if a tire loses pressure. A RF lets you drive to help, a non RF means help has to come to you unless you have a plug kit, can find and plug the leak, and have an air source.
I like having the run flats. Helped me out a little with a cracked wheel situation. Based on your description of your driving style and your location, I would recommend the all-season tires. The Super Sports have about 7/32s of tread new and the all-seasons have 10/32s. It doesn't sound like wear is a problem, but the extra tread depth should help evacuate water. The all-season tires don't react as sharply to inputs as the Super Sports, but you probably won't notice much difference. They all-seasons don't react as much to the Ackerman effect either. Steve_R was correct about the nitrogen.
From your description the Pilot Sport A/S 4 will work well for you. I have two wheel/tire sets since I live in northern MN. I have one set with Pilot sport A/S 4 for the shoulder season when temperatures run 20-50F fall and spring. I have another set with summer tires, currently Pilot Sport PS4.
I find the A/S work very well. A bit more tire squirm and traction control engages more often compared to summer tires, but I am a somewhat more aggressive driver. Many drivers won't be able to tell the difference. Can't say much about ride difference, I prefer a firmer ride anyway sports cars should not be smooth riding haha.
I have had the DS06's on another vehicle they are great performance A/S too.
You asked about the A/S 3+, that is just the previous generation of the Michelin Pilot sport all season tire, replaced by the A/S 4.
Michelins are arguably the best performance tire company on the market, if you don't drive in cold or rainy weather, I would go with a summer only tire, they have better dry road performance than an all-season tire. I would also recommend staying with a run flat, good luck trying to plug a puncture with an air compressor & a patch kit on the side of the highway
Even after 4-5 years I can tell my garaged summer tires are losing grip. After 10 years will have even less. 10 year old tires that have been garaged might not blow up... but if outside in the sun they will dry rot and crack. I had a 12 year old trailer tire blow on me - lesson learned. At some point mfr's have to put a shelf life it may or may not be conservative but like food shelf lives they test so long, set the date, and move on.
Replacing tires (finally) 2015 Sting Ray 20k miles on originals Michelin Super Sport.
Is there still wisdom to changing to Michelin Pilot Sport All Season?
'Vette rarely driven in wet weather and certainly not frozen roads. Looking for good performance and more mileage if possible.
ps. Not a real aggressive driver.
Thanks, Glenn
Mt Juliet, TN
We have two sets of wheels/tires for our C7, AS4 runflats for cold weather and PSS runflats for warm. So every Spring/Fall I get to do a back-to-back comparison when I switch:
Below about 50'F, the AS4 will have more grip than the PSS. Somewhat better in rain, infinitely better in any snow at all. Last about 50% longer so your cost per mile is less. I find the improvement in ride and decreased noise to be very minor. I replaced the last two sets at 6 years (as recommended in our Owner Manual) with identical-but-new tires, the improvement in noise was moderate and the grip on dry roads was significant. If I didn't do autocross/track time during summer, I'd use the AS4 all year.