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Just a comment: even thou i"ll never got to the track either, the Z51 package is a a great option in my eyes. Gives you the ablity to have a different level of car with a minor adjustment of the control. Greatest car i have ever driven...
Drive both and decide for yourself. Some say they don't really feel a difference, others say its useless unless you track the car. I disagree, I don't track my car and the difference is significant on the street where I do all my driving. Personally, I would not buy a corvette without it! No right or wrong answer, just personal preference.
Last edited by Mike's LS3; Feb 3, 2014 at 07:30 PM.
Drive both and decide for yourself. Some say they don't really feel a difference, others say its useless unless you track the car. I disagree, I don't track my car and the difference is significant on the street where I do all my driving. Personally, I would not buy a corvette without it! No right or wrong answer, just personal preference.
After buying a new one without in 2008 now you get the 19-20's
along a long list for only 2800. I see it moving up in price on the 2015's.
I think it's well worth it and makes a more worthy car when it comes
to driving like a sports car. Should have made them all that way
The general put a ton of value in the Z51 package.
Even if you don't participate in hpde's (I highly recommend it, you gain a whole new sense of how good cars are these days, and you learn ton about driving while having the time of your life, there's virtually no downside with the proper preparations) the Z51 will be a more durable car thanks to all the auxiliary coolers, larger brakes ect, while feeling more lively with the shorter gear ratios.
After buying a new one without in 2008 now you get the 19-20's
along a long list for only 2800. I see it moving up in price on the 2015's.
I think it's well worth it and makes a more worthy car when it comes
to driving like a sports car. Should have made them all that way
The Z51 option should be standard with the MRC as an option.
OP: Be carefull with Z51 advice as it is very tricky. Understand that a street driven car has absolutely no need what so ever for all the additional cooling systems, e diff, gigunda brake rotors etc and don't expect the car to be any faster. This package is primarily for those who will be tracking the car on a regular basis or those who just want to have or say that they have the full compliment of high performance gear. As for the wheels, skip the Z51s, YUK, the wheels on the base suspension are much cleaner. Go aftermarket on wheels. I've had Z51 on 3 previous Corvettes and it was a total waste of money.
Really? Drive it like you stole it and then tell us how you really feel.
Yeah really. I know how to drive a sports car, thank you. The capabilities of the base Corvettes exceeds what 99% of us can use on the street. How many more pics of Corvettes destroyed by guys pushing their limits on the street do you need to see.
Please take may sarcasm in jest. Seen enough bad driving decisions...in car mecca So Cal we see them every day.
I happen to think that the Z51 option is a go for a lot of reasons (not in any order):
- resale value and attraction in the resale marketplace vs. base model
- better braking via larger brakes (safety)
- electronic differential (again, better safety if too much throttle coming out of a corner)
- tire/wheel upgrade equates to better traction (straight line, laterally, braking, etc.). Once again, a safety item.
So you don't necessarily have to race the **** out of a Z51 to gain some inherent advantages on the street, whether it be accident-avoidance or otherwise. Plus, for my money, it appears to be a real bargain.
Please take may sarcasm in jest. Seen enough bad driving decisions...in car mecca So Cal we see them every day.
I happen to think that the Z51 option is a go for a lot of reasons (not in any order):
- resale value and attraction in the resale marketplace vs. base model **So what? Obviously if the car has more options you'll have a higher resale value. You'll still get more money back if you buy a stripped down, no options 1LT**
- better braking via larger brakes (safety) **For any emergency braking, the base brakes will stop the car just as quickly as big brakes**
- electronic differential (again, better safety if too much throttle coming out of a corner)**This whole "spin" on safety is ridiculous...**
- tire/wheel upgrade equates to better traction (straight line, laterally, braking, etc.). Once again, a safety item. **This is so minor. The larger and heavier wheels will reduce gas mileage too.**
So you don't necessarily have to race the **** out of a Z51 to gain some inherent advantages on the street, whether it be accident-avoidance or otherwise. Plus, for my money, it appears to be a real bargain.
Yeah really. I know how to drive a sports car, thank you. The capabilities of the base Corvettes exceeds what 99% of us can use on the street. How many more pics of Corvettes destroyed by guys pushing their limits on the street do you need to see.
Well when you start really pushing things using it like a sports car instead of coffee at Starbucks and home, the lack of having the
Z51 option shows!
Lots of base cars sitting and Z51's are very low in number comparedand selling.
Because they are out selling the base car. Much better buy and look and trade.
More than get the 2800 back.
Yeah really. I know how to drive a sports car, thank you. The capabilities of the base Corvettes exceeds what 99% of us can use on the street. How many more pics of Corvettes destroyed by guys pushing their limits on the street do you need to see.
Not really the base car cries uncle pretty quick where the z51 won't.
OP: Be carefull with Z51 advice as it is very tricky. Understand that a street driven car has absolutely no need what so ever for all the additional cooling systems, e diff, gigunda brake rotors etc and don't expect the car to be any faster. This package is primarily for those who will be tracking the car on a regular basis or those who just want to have or say that they have the full compliment of high performance gear. As for the wheels, skip the Z51s, YUK, the wheels on the base suspension are much cleaner. Go aftermarket on wheels. I've had Z51 on 3 previous Corvettes and it was a total waste of money.
Couldn't disagree more!
1. Keeping drivetrain fluids cooler is a good thing.
2. E-diff provides better control around the curved roads.
3. Z51 suspension is faster around curved roads.
4. Bigger rotors will dissipate heat better.
5. Z51 19" & 20" rims look much better than the base rims.
5. Z51 option was the best option on my 08 C6, much improved for the C7.
For those who are undecided: Drive one and then decide for yourself.
Last edited by Mike's LS3; Feb 5, 2014 at 11:38 PM.
1. Keeping drivetrain fluids cooler is a good thing.
2. E-diff provides better control around the curved roads.
3. Z51 suspension is faster around curved roads.
4. Bigger rotors will dissipate heat better.
5. Z51 19" & 20" rims look much better than the base rims.
5. Z51 option was the best option on my 08 C6, much improved for the C7.
For those who are undecided: Drive one and then decide for yourself.
Although I agree with all of your comments, I think drmustang is suggesting that the car is more than capable in base form for most people who putter around town and drive a little spiritedly once in a while. In that regard, he is correct. The car in base form is way more performance than is needed to drive to work, get groceries or take the wife for a fun back road drive. For folks who use the car this way, even in base form, the car's ability is likely beyond the ability of the driver and beyond the level the car can be used on a public street. All of this, I think, is true.
For me, I need Z51. However, even if I didn't need it, I would still get it because I like the look better and because I personally believe it will be more desirable and easier to sell later in the after market. The wheels, spoiler and larger brakes are MORE than worth the upgrade cost IMO. Add to that the ability to get MRC and, to me, it's an absolute no brainer. That and I don't normally buy a stripper car when I'm spending a lot on a car anyway (although the C7 in stripper levels of trim is still pretty well optioned). Z51 is, for many people, a "want" item instead of a "need" item and that is great IMO. Some people argue on and on that because it isn't "necessary" then it is a waste... well, based on that line of thinking, a Corvette itself isn't necessary either and is a waste. Most people, I believe, recognize that being "necessary" isn't particularly relevant either way and getting a car like a Corvette is emotion driven and people SHOULD get the options that excite them and fit their budget... end of story.
Is the Z51 package, which I would only get with MRC, worth $7,500 more? When I was making my decision what to buy I could get a $3,000 discount on a base and no discount on a Z51. Since I don't/won't ever track my car I couldn't justify the extra $7k for equipment I will likely never get the most out of. My 2LT with NPP is a blast to drive and can't imagine needing anything more.