Halltech StingerCKN with Headers-Report Card
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Halltech StingerCKN with Headers-Report Card
What happens if you have headers already, and add the Halltech StingerCKN intake to your package without further tuning?
Bolt on 30 HP, no tuning at all with AR Headers:
Bolt on to previously tuned platform with Kooks Headers. No further tuning:
In 29 days, we will have the Stinger-H ready to go. H for Hybrid. We are working on a price point of around $935.50. This would include our roto-molded intake system and our CKN airbox (Carbon, Kevlar, Nomex III). The Hybrid will be offered through our dealers for $898.00 for the first 30 days, to get these launched. Let them know if you are interested in this new setup.
Tested at +14/9 RWHP on the stock LT1, +21/19 where a cam, headers, and tuning were already onboard, +17/12 where headers are already in place, and NO TUNING NECESSARY, makes this intake system your only choice (literally).
The Stinger-R or complete roto-molded version is also in the works, but those that want the look and the power, the Stinger-H may be your solution.
Bolt on 30 HP, no tuning at all with AR Headers:
Bolt on to previously tuned platform with Kooks Headers. No further tuning:
In 29 days, we will have the Stinger-H ready to go. H for Hybrid. We are working on a price point of around $935.50. This would include our roto-molded intake system and our CKN airbox (Carbon, Kevlar, Nomex III). The Hybrid will be offered through our dealers for $898.00 for the first 30 days, to get these launched. Let them know if you are interested in this new setup.
Tested at +14/9 RWHP on the stock LT1, +21/19 where a cam, headers, and tuning were already onboard, +17/12 where headers are already in place, and NO TUNING NECESSARY, makes this intake system your only choice (literally).
The Stinger-R or complete roto-molded version is also in the works, but those that want the look and the power, the Stinger-H may be your solution.
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We saw 11hp/15tq I'll have beth scan and email a copy of the sheet. If you have dynojet run viewer program I included the runs. I will be working on developing a tune today, First I'll just correct the AFR and see what we gain.
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NicKey Chicago
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NicKey Chicago
We guarantee results like this WITHOUT TUNING.
Next, Nickey will try their hand at tuning. My Prediction: +5 more RWHP 5 more lb-ft. just messing with air fuel ratio only.
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Nickey Chicago is installing Kooks headers today, and then tuning. I should see results Monday. I will post them here.
Halltech is aware of how expensive the CKN setup is, but when you see the complete system and consider the bolt on horsepower/torque with this mod, it makes sense.
The Hybrid version is going to be hard to beat cost wise, with launch date of around March 10th.
We have decided to invest in our own 3D scanner to complete our CAD design for the rotomolded system complete. The airbox section does not have one straight line, so drawing it by hand is impossible.
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Awesome gains. But forgive me, maybe I'm missing something, or misread something. I've been up for 2 days plowing snow, so forgive me. Why is this intake so expensive? I don't remember intakes ever costing so much?
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Probably due to R&D plus it is carbon fiber. I think this mod makes more sense the better you need your car to breathe.
The factories are doing a good job designing their intakes and there getting harder to beat. My M5 had the stock intake with ram air ducts because the aftermarket couldn't beat it.
The factories are doing a good job designing their intakes and there getting harder to beat. My M5 had the stock intake with ram air ducts because the aftermarket couldn't beat it.
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Our systems are hand made here in Wisconsin, by Halltech; our guys have an average of 15 years experience building carbon parts for Pratt and Miller Racing. We use dry carbon (pre-impregnated), vacuum bagged and oven cured. Halltech has been at the forefront of carbon fiber hood design, intake design, and other body panels for 15 years. You pay for what you get.
Our Hybrid Stinger-H will be released in March and will be $999 retail. Carbon fiber airbox, and rotomolded intake.
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Halltech StingerCKN with Kooks Headers-no tuning
Just in from Nickey Chicago: Saturday they picked up +11RWHP +15lb-ft TQ just bolting the StingerCKN on a stock C7. Today they installed Kooks headers sans the cats and picked up another 15 RWHP/16.9lb-ft.
HALLTECH WITH KOOKS, NO TUNING: TOTAL RWHP GAIN OVER STOCK +25 rwhp/ +27LB-FT
No tuning of any kind at this point. As I indicated in previous posts, tuning makes marginal differences (+4 to +5 RWHP) and actually requires more fuel to achieve better numbers. The opposite of the Gen IV engines.
Let's see what they can do.
HALLTECH WITH KOOKS, NO TUNING: TOTAL RWHP GAIN OVER STOCK +25 rwhp/ +27LB-FT
No tuning of any kind at this point. As I indicated in previous posts, tuning makes marginal differences (+4 to +5 RWHP) and actually requires more fuel to achieve better numbers. The opposite of the Gen IV engines.
Let's see what they can do.
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Comparing two different dynos in STD correction factor
THREE different dynos two with simple bolt on with the Halltech StingerCKN and Kooks, one with bolt on StingerCKN and ARH; STD correction on all three dynos and NO TUNING:
Stinger and Kooks: 441.77/451.44
Stinger and Kooks: 444.17/442.01
Stinger and ARH: 445.34/400.40
CKN with Kooks:
CKN with Kooks:
CKN with mids ARH:
None of the above dyno tests were done with any tuning. All different dynos, testing methods, but standard correction to compare results. The first two dynos are with the CKN and Kooks, the third with AHR. Results are all within the margin of error, showing that Kooks and ARH are very close when run with our StingerCKN.
Texas Speeds headers will be interesting.
We have 16 systems out there, so more numbers should be coming soon. The C7 StingerCKN also saves 3.6lbs off the front end of your car. Looks sweet too.
Stinger and Kooks: 441.77/451.44
Stinger and Kooks: 444.17/442.01
Stinger and ARH: 445.34/400.40
CKN with Kooks:
CKN with Kooks:
CKN with mids ARH:
None of the above dyno tests were done with any tuning. All different dynos, testing methods, but standard correction to compare results. The first two dynos are with the CKN and Kooks, the third with AHR. Results are all within the margin of error, showing that Kooks and ARH are very close when run with our StingerCKN.
Texas Speeds headers will be interesting.
We have 16 systems out there, so more numbers should be coming soon. The C7 StingerCKN also saves 3.6lbs off the front end of your car. Looks sweet too.
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Halltech products / services have always been top shelf. We have been using them at NicKey for years.
We have already determined that this intake will produce significant and safe gains when just bolted on. The most notable factors are not just the peak numbers, but both hp and tq under the curve and/or the average gain!
The Kooks headers fit like a glove, with their characteristic quality build and also provide a significant power increase without any tuning. So both the Halltech CAI and Kooks headers are compatible and provide significant hp & tq without any tuning.
These two items should be on the C7 performance short list and are a requisite building block to more power down the road.
When we add our Stage I or II head and cam option, the overall net increases with the Halltech and the Kooks will be even more significant.
Important notes regarding the NicKey posted Dyno Results:
We are running real world, 91 pump gas.
This C7 is an automatic with the Z51 option.
We are running cat-delete connection pipes.
We have already determined that this intake will produce significant and safe gains when just bolted on. The most notable factors are not just the peak numbers, but both hp and tq under the curve and/or the average gain!
The Kooks headers fit like a glove, with their characteristic quality build and also provide a significant power increase without any tuning. So both the Halltech CAI and Kooks headers are compatible and provide significant hp & tq without any tuning.
These two items should be on the C7 performance short list and are a requisite building block to more power down the road.
When we add our Stage I or II head and cam option, the overall net increases with the Halltech and the Kooks will be even more significant.
Important notes regarding the NicKey posted Dyno Results:
We are running real world, 91 pump gas.
This C7 is an automatic with the Z51 option.
We are running cat-delete connection pipes.
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New dyno reportq
Just in:
Comparing this dyno to the other three above (STD Correction) the numbers would be 2.43%% higher or 446.6 RWHP.
Comparing this dyno to the other three above (STD Correction) the numbers would be 2.43%% higher or 446.6 RWHP.
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If there is any doubt about Halltech's results........
The Halltech Hornet CAI sets the record for a ZR1 (stock bottom end) with an 8.92@156.25mph. Congratulations Eric! Eric is also running our Super BeehiveZ and our GT2Z carbon fiber DRED hood. He claims -15 degrees cooler water temps. Go to 1.30 in the video for the record run.