Help: Elite vs Rx catch can for FI application
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Help: Elite vs Rx catch can for FI application
I am getting an A&A kit to be installed by RPM in about 3 weeks and I need help deciding on a catch can before then. I am pretty new to this whole catch can thing and only know from what I have gathered online. I have no hands-on knowledge of the products so if I have misrepresented anything, please go easy on the pitch fork.
Option 1: The LMR breather option was considered but I ultimately decided against it for its cost. Beautiful unit though...
Option 2: I like Elite for its size (don't mind emptying it a bit more often), machining, and its detachable container for thorough cleaning vs. Rx's valve.
Option 3: Rx harps on its benefit to release positive crank case pressure quite a bit. I am not overly concerned with it especially with the use of LS seal, else I would have gone with the LMR breather. BUT the added insurance, if there is any, for minimal price difference between Elite and Rx never hurts.
Inputs needed and appreciated. Is Rx more effective in releasing crank case pressure than Elite?
Option 1: The LMR breather option was considered but I ultimately decided against it for its cost. Beautiful unit though...
Option 2: I like Elite for its size (don't mind emptying it a bit more often), machining, and its detachable container for thorough cleaning vs. Rx's valve.
Option 3: Rx harps on its benefit to release positive crank case pressure quite a bit. I am not overly concerned with it especially with the use of LS seal, else I would have gone with the LMR breather. BUT the added insurance, if there is any, for minimal price difference between Elite and Rx never hurts.
Inputs needed and appreciated. Is Rx more effective in releasing crank case pressure than Elite?
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I have the RX can and I have nothing but good things to say about it. Before the whole seal blowing issue came about Tracy at RX already had my car setup correctly to relieve what was the cause of the issue. He is also extremely knowledgeable about PCV systems. I would definitely recommend the RX.
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I am getting an A&A kit to be installed by RPM in about 3 weeks and I need help deciding on a catch can before then. I am pretty new to this whole catch can thing and only know from what I have gathered online. I have no hands-on knowledge of the products so if I have misrepresented anything, please go easy on the pitch fork.
Option 1: The LMR breather option was considered but I ultimately decided against it for its cost. Beautiful unit though...
Option 2: I like Elite for its size (don't mind emptying it a bit more often), machining, and its detachable container for thorough cleaning vs. Rx's valve.
Option 3: Rx harps on its benefit to release positive crank case pressure quite a bit. I am not overly concerned with it especially with the use of LS seal, else I would have gone with the LMR breather. BUT the added insurance, if there is any, for minimal price difference between Elite and Rx never hurts.
Inputs needed and appreciated. Is Rx more effective in releasing crank case pressure than Elite?
Option 1: The LMR breather option was considered but I ultimately decided against it for its cost. Beautiful unit though...
Option 2: I like Elite for its size (don't mind emptying it a bit more often), machining, and its detachable container for thorough cleaning vs. Rx's valve.
Option 3: Rx harps on its benefit to release positive crank case pressure quite a bit. I am not overly concerned with it especially with the use of LS seal, else I would have gone with the LMR breather. BUT the added insurance, if there is any, for minimal price difference between Elite and Rx never hurts.
Inputs needed and appreciated. Is Rx more effective in releasing crank case pressure than Elite?
You will have a hard time finding a catch can that breathes as much as ours does. This breather unit is one you will buy once and never have to buy another again. This same setup we use on our street car builds all the way up to our 3000hp Drag Radial car. The RX and Elite cans use a 3/8" line while ours uses a 10an lines (equal to 5/8") directly from the valve covers and 6an (equal to 3/8") lines from the valley cover and dry sump tank. That is 4 Locations to breath from. We have had Zero issues with front seals on cars that we have installed breathers on. Please let me know if you have any questions.
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RX has the worst customer service I have ever seen. Promises of delivery dates that get pushed back further and further and further.. Its nearly impossible to get ahold of anyone there, phone rings forever. Just do a search, you will find quite a bit of negative feedback regarding the customer service. My above comments are based on my own personal experience though.
The systems they sell work but are kinda hodge podged together. I have no knowledge of the C7 system, but the "monster" can they offered for the C5/6 was a joke. It worked but it was pieced together poorly. Fittings were press fit, not welded or threaded. Check valves were some OE inside hose crap...
At the end of the day did it work? Yes... Its still on a 930whp car and sucks up oil like a vacuum. (no joke) but the quality is very poor in my opinion as is the customer service/quality of service.
I believe LMR really got this right from the get go for boosted applications with the right level of quality.
The downside, it is a bit pricey..
The systems they sell work but are kinda hodge podged together. I have no knowledge of the C7 system, but the "monster" can they offered for the C5/6 was a joke. It worked but it was pieced together poorly. Fittings were press fit, not welded or threaded. Check valves were some OE inside hose crap...
At the end of the day did it work? Yes... Its still on a 930whp car and sucks up oil like a vacuum. (no joke) but the quality is very poor in my opinion as is the customer service/quality of service.
I believe LMR really got this right from the get go for boosted applications with the right level of quality.
The downside, it is a bit pricey..
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RX has the worst customer service I have ever seen. Promises of delivery dates that get pushed back further and further and further.. Its nearly impossible to get ahold of anyone there, phone rings forever. Just do a search, you will find quite a bit of negative feedback regarding the customer service. My above comments are based on my own personal experience though.
The systems they sell work but are kinda hodge podged together. I have no knowledge of the C7 system, but the "monster" can they offered for the C5/6 was a joke. It worked but it was pieced together poorly. Fittings were press fit, not welded or threaded. Check valves were some OE inside hose crap...
At the end of the day did it work? Yes... Its still on a 930whp car and sucks up oil like a vacuum. (no joke) but the quality is very poor in my opinion as is the customer service/quality of service.
I believe LMR really got this right from the get go for boosted applications with the right level of quality.
The downside, it is a bit pricey..
The systems they sell work but are kinda hodge podged together. I have no knowledge of the C7 system, but the "monster" can they offered for the C5/6 was a joke. It worked but it was pieced together poorly. Fittings were press fit, not welded or threaded. Check valves were some OE inside hose crap...
At the end of the day did it work? Yes... Its still on a 930whp car and sucks up oil like a vacuum. (no joke) but the quality is very poor in my opinion as is the customer service/quality of service.
I believe LMR really got this right from the get go for boosted applications with the right level of quality.
The downside, it is a bit pricey..
I did a lot of research online with feedback and most of what i read for both RX and Elite was positive, which was the reason that I went with RX. I have no affiliation with them but I am very happy with mine. I did replace all of the hoses on mine with braided stainless line.
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I have the LMR, and I would vote for that option if not for your price constraint. But in all seriousness, it's worth it...
That being said, from your options, I would go with Elite w/ the dual check valves.
That being said, from your options, I would go with Elite w/ the dual check valves.
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I'm not doing a FI build on this car, but some big cubes on NOS. I spoke to two of the 3 mentioned above and RX quickly stepped up to the plate with their Monster can with nice fittings and all. Not only did it show up to my door 2 days later but it was painted in the carbon flash color I told Tracy I liked. I was pretty impressed!
Not to take away from anyone else's past experiences or the other two mentioned here either as all have a nice product IMO and we just did a couple of Elite setups for clients as well. I would recommend calling them bro and talk through their specific systems and then buy one through me! lmao
All kidding aside, just give them all a shout.
Not to take away from anyone else's past experiences or the other two mentioned here either as all have a nice product IMO and we just did a couple of Elite setups for clients as well. I would recommend calling them bro and talk through their specific systems and then buy one through me! lmao
All kidding aside, just give them all a shout.
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Thanks for your input, everyone.
breecher, I get the same impression on the RX can. It just doesn't seem to be as well put together as Elite's (to my untrained eyes). Hence, if Elite does as good a job in releasing crankcase pressure, that'd be the one I would get.
Unreal, appreciate the info but I can't wait as the install is happening early June.
Motohead and tlove, thanks for the info. RX availability is not a concern as RPM told me they have them in stock. It really comes down to whether RX does a measurably better job in releasing pressure valve than Elite. I could very well be over thinking about the difference between these two as far as that goes.
Sean, I knew I could always count on you for advice. Elite w/ the dual check valves is exactly the direction I am leaning toward.
Reid, I fully believe your breather is head and shoulder superior than the other two. It's just that my requirement and the price of your catch can do not meet at a crossroad.
Ben, should I go with Elite, I will give you a holler. Maybe then you will finally ship the aero kit to me with it? LOL
I will call up A&A tomorrow to see if they have anything to say on it.
breecher, I get the same impression on the RX can. It just doesn't seem to be as well put together as Elite's (to my untrained eyes). Hence, if Elite does as good a job in releasing crankcase pressure, that'd be the one I would get.
Unreal, appreciate the info but I can't wait as the install is happening early June.
Motohead and tlove, thanks for the info. RX availability is not a concern as RPM told me they have them in stock. It really comes down to whether RX does a measurably better job in releasing pressure valve than Elite. I could very well be over thinking about the difference between these two as far as that goes.
Sean, I knew I could always count on you for advice. Elite w/ the dual check valves is exactly the direction I am leaning toward.
Reid, I fully believe your breather is head and shoulder superior than the other two. It's just that my requirement and the price of your catch can do not meet at a crossroad.
Ben, should I go with Elite, I will give you a holler. Maybe then you will finally ship the aero kit to me with it? LOL
I will call up A&A tomorrow to see if they have anything to say on it.
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Thanks for your input, everyone.
breecher, I get the same impression on the RX can. It just doesn't seem to be as well put together as Elite's (to my untrained eyes). Hence, if Elite does as good a job in releasing crankcase pressure, that'd be the one I would get.
Unreal, appreciate the info but I can't wait as the install is happening early June.
Motohead and tlove, thanks for the info. RX availability is not a concern as RPM told me they have them in stock. It really comes down to whether RX does a measurably better job in releasing pressure valve than Elite. I could very well be over thinking about the difference between these two as far as that goes.
Sean, I knew I could always count on you for advice. Elite w/ the dual check valves is exactly the direction I am leaning toward.
Reid, I fully believe your breather is head and shoulder superior than the other two. It's just that my requirement and the price of your catch can do not meet at a crossroad.
Ben, should I go with Elite, I will give you a holler. Maybe then you will finally ship the aero kit to me with it? LOL
I will call up A&A tomorrow to see if they have anything to say on it.
breecher, I get the same impression on the RX can. It just doesn't seem to be as well put together as Elite's (to my untrained eyes). Hence, if Elite does as good a job in releasing crankcase pressure, that'd be the one I would get.
Unreal, appreciate the info but I can't wait as the install is happening early June.
Motohead and tlove, thanks for the info. RX availability is not a concern as RPM told me they have them in stock. It really comes down to whether RX does a measurably better job in releasing pressure valve than Elite. I could very well be over thinking about the difference between these two as far as that goes.
Sean, I knew I could always count on you for advice. Elite w/ the dual check valves is exactly the direction I am leaning toward.
Reid, I fully believe your breather is head and shoulder superior than the other two. It's just that my requirement and the price of your catch can do not meet at a crossroad.
Ben, should I go with Elite, I will give you a holler. Maybe then you will finally ship the aero kit to me with it? LOL
I will call up A&A tomorrow to see if they have anything to say on it.
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